folks who post mucho sucko sites mucho sucko.

i dont want sucko cookies on my family computer, please.

tom w

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Which is why I didn't link to it here in the first place. All of those videos are available online other places.

BTW muchosucko doesn't cause ANY problems if you access it with Firefox

Obviously its not "family" type website but the spam is easily combatted with firefox.

I e-mailed smart a while back about when/if it will be available here in the U.S. thet told me they are currently working on a U.S. model but it would not be available any sooner than 2008.

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'73 VW camper
'80 300td wagon

Sorry, but I find this statement quite ironic coming from a fellow motorcycle rider. Would I buy one? Yes, but it would have to shine above it's competition in fuel economy, which is gonna be hard considering what cars like the Prius, and Insight post for mileage. That little 3 banger diesel though, would be fun to throw around.

Though I am sure the smart will be choked, stabbed, strung up, and shot 4 times in the face before they offer it here in the states as a model that "complies with EPA regulations"

67 mpg. I don't think it's so much a big-SUV-obsession problem. Look at how well Mini Cooper's sell. It would be a cult thing. Unfortunately, diesel deters people, as does a vehicle that tops out at 75 mph. It would be hard for these cars to get going as far as popularity in this culture. I think it's possible, especially as fuel situations go downhill, but it would take an excellent marketing campaign. And the rest of the U.S. M-B sector isn't exactly soaring right now ...

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

MPG in usa gallon is a bit hard to quantify, on the canadian smart forums, 60-80 mpg is usual, some folks claim 113 mpg for optimum long distant highway driving, to 42 mpg for aggressive city driving when car was new. 56 mpg is combined estimate.

Which makes diesel a cheaper thing (< $300 cdn) if you decide drive from the pacific to the atlantic (4000 miles)

http://www.thesmart.ca/index.cfm?id=5058

The Smart is better than both, esp. on the highway, in terms of economy. Performance and practicality-wise, though, the hybrids are probably a lot more appealing. But gasoline + battery does nothing for me ...

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Hey I am paranoid riding in rush hour traffic here too.

I do my riding further out in the country...

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Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
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Section 609 MVAC Certified
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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Sorry about the muchosucko site - I changed the link. I'd never seen the website before - it was something my brother sent me. We both use Macs and Firefox so I guess he wasn't concerned about the cookies.

Coming to us?

"4. How much does the Smart Car Americanized by ZAP cost?
The Smart Car Americanized by ZAP will be available through selected auto dealers. The cars come with a multitude of options, accessories and sub-models, so prices may vary from $15,000 to $25,000."
http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp

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1984 300Sd 210k

Former cars:
1984 300D 445k (!!) (Strider) Original (and not rebuilt) engine and transmission. Currently running on V80 ( 80% vegetable oil, 20% petroleum products). Actually not, taking a WVO break.
1993 300d 2.5 275k. Current 120/day commuter
1981 300SD 188k (Hans) Killed by a deer

yea the american smart isnt going to be what its canadian and european counterparts are.. a small effiecent 3 cyl turbodiesel like what i want.. and will probably run into the 20's while currently the canadian one runs like 12,000 usd.. damn government.. go ahead let all these frign huge gas sucking suv's that pollute less than something that gets 60 mpg without impractical hybrid technology..

I haven't been having much of a problem.

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Regards

Warren

Currently 1965 220Sb, 2002 FORD Crown Vic Police Interceptor

Had 1965 220SEb, 1967 230S, 280SE 4.5, 300SE (W126), 420SEL

ENTER > = (HP RPN)

Not part of the in-crowd since 1952.

Harkening back to the college days getting degrees in Safety. These crash test basically simulate hitting exact same vehicle at exact same speed head on, or in this case Smart cars at a closing rate of 140 mph.

Personally I would love to have to have a Smart car. But if I hit it head-on in the E300DT, it will "smart" a lot more for them.

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raMBow

1999 E300DT Obsydian Black Metallic, Heated Full Leather Parchment options, E2, K2, 136,000+, best 36.5 mpg - GP's 12-04 & 11-12 Zero Stuck
2010 Honda Odyssey - The BrideMobile - best 26.5
(2) 2005 Honday Accord- (1 -Corporate 1 - Personal) - 110,000 4-cyl 30mpg
2000 VW Golf GLS TDI, Upsolute Chip (sold to Brother, now 300+k on it) 48.5 mpg like clock work
1987 Honda CRX HF - Sold 87,000 always over 50 mpg Max 67 mpg

Hehehe, have you noticed the same reluctance by people to passing you in your Crown Vic as I have noticed with mine? I had one afraid to go by me on the way home from work tonight, despite the fact that I was running 10 under the limit.

There's a smart car on Ebay right here:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2005-Smart-Car_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6315QQitemZ4596810842QQrdZ1

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL