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300DPETE 11-24-2005 12:42 PM

...um...this part doesn't look like the one I'm replacing...
 
1982 300D

Hi, guys.

I just had a 3/2 vacuum valve (on top of the valve cover) come in the mail. It looks different than the one I'm replacing. The one I'm replacing has two levers, the new one has one lever. Is this a revision of the part, or do I have the wrong part?

Thanks,

Pete.

techguy512 11-24-2005 03:12 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the valve you are replacing does not have two levers.

What you actually have is two valves (one lever each) stacked on top of each other.

300DPETE 11-24-2005 03:24 PM

Ah, man!

What a pain.

I'm only half way there, and the one was expensive enough. I assumed the person I ordered it from would recognize that I needed both. I take it they are identical?

Pete.

Brian Carlton 11-24-2005 04:09 PM

Before you waste any more money on the 3/2 valves, confirm if they function solely for the EGR. I recently ripped out both 3/2 valves and all the associated hoses to the black box. The SD never knew the difference in terms of transmission performance.

Some 3/2 valves control the transmission. Most simply affect the EGR.

rg2098 11-24-2005 05:30 PM

I believe they all technically affect the transmission vac, but usually not enough to really notice the impact.

JamesDean 11-24-2005 05:34 PM

mine did NOT have anything to do with the transmission...before i knew this i spent $60 on 2 new valves...ultimately i tore the entire thing out..the rubber tubing going from the line to the valve and vice versa had been leaking terribly also...

Brian Carlton 11-24-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rg2098
I believe they all technically affect the transmission vac, but usually not enough to really notice the impact.

They don't.

The only time that the 3/2 valves cause a vacuum drop is when the the valve opens and applies vacuum to the EGR valve. This is momentary and won't affect the transmission.

The transmission circuit has a restrictor thereby minimizing any effects of an upstream vacuum drop.

300DPETE 11-24-2005 09:49 PM

All I know is that when I replaced those two plastic levers (not the entire valves, which I'm about to do, but just the little levers) it was like I had a new transmission. (seriously).

Pete.

JamesDean 11-24-2005 09:57 PM

I did this too...noticed nothing...then replaced the vavles..still noticed nothing...i then deemed those valves had nothing to do with the trans...pulled and em that was it...its different for each diesel certain models, yes certain no.

1983/300CD 11-25-2005 08:17 PM

True, it can make a big difference if they were bad or leaking.

When I changed mine, I noticed no difference.

Boring out the "T"'s in the booster vac line made shifting all sloppy, and I'm still trying to remedy that.

signalredcoupe 11-26-2005 09:55 AM

Trace the lines
 
There is usually one source vacuum line going to the box on the valve cover. If there is a line going out to a temp. sensor near the engine thermostat & then to the EGR valve-you don't need them. The other line (if you have it) going back to the Injector pump area you should keep(transmission)& obviously the source line. Paul central FL
300CD '84

Beckenbauer 11-26-2005 11:20 AM

vacuum valve levers
 
maybe I'm imagining it, but Garner's 1-2 and 2-3 shifts seem smoother now than before installing the two little levers I got from diesel giant. For 10 bucks, it was worth it, as my old ones were worn through all the way. Just because it's a placebo doesn't mean it doesn't work!


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