Diesel Emissions in California - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Diesel-o-Matic · #1 12-03-2005, 12:26 AM

I read something recently, unfortunately, I don't remember where, that in 2007 California is going to expect Diesel automobiles to pass similiar emission tests as gas autos must pass now. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this and if so, what would that mean for older MBs if they are unable to meet the new standard?

DieselAddict · #2 12-03-2005, 01:28 AM

That was in the AOL article that was posted here recently. Relax, it only concerns new diesel cars and has nothing to do with older models.

Diesel-o-Matic · #3 12-03-2005, 02:02 AM

Thanks.

I thought I was going to have to sell my 300SD in the next couple of years.

Donald Abenheim · #4 12-03-2005, 12:53 PM

The posture of diesels here in California is laughable, really. Last month, I drove a wonderful A class Mercedes in Germany, an A180, for a week---from Vienna to Berlin and around the capital for several days. It was a diesel with a very small, but quite powerful motor. Never a chance of such a vehicle here in the Golden State, to be sure with the wrong headed Diktat which was always sending me nasty letters about my beloved 1979 240D. Pfui. I have yet to receive one for my E300, but surely it is only a matter of time.

Nate · #5 12-03-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Donald Abenheim

Never a chance of such a vehicle here in the Golden State, to be sure with the wrong headed Diktat which was always sending me nasty letters about my beloved 1979 240D. Pfui. I have yet to receive one for my E300, but surely it is only a matter of time.

You get nasty letters from somebody? Thats great... Ever respond back to them?

Anyways I think thats funny, and would enjoy a scanned copy of one of thoose letters.

CA's wierd... IMHO the trade in location isnt worth the trade in car standards.

Registration, new tital, plates, and "inspection sticker"... And a few other things since the PO didnt register my truck, and I only got a bill of sale. That was only cost $150... plates/stickers are $100 anyways

Thanks alot
~Nate

BENZ-LGB · #6 12-03-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nateid15

You get nasty letters from somebody? Thats great... Ever respond back to them?

Anyways I think thats funny, and would enjoy a scanned copy of one of thoose letters.

CA's wierd... IMHO the trade in location isnt worth the trade in car standards.

Registration, new tital, plates, and "inspection sticker"... And a few other things since the PO didnt register my truck, and I only got a bill of sale. That was only cost $150... plates/stickers are $100 anyways

Thanks alot
~Nate

I agree that California laws and regulations are crazy, to say the least.

But still, shoveling snow in the winter, dealing with stagnant summer heat and eating all that cheese is not worth it!

I'm staying put in California. Hopefully by the time the next big quake hits I'll end up w ith beachfront property.

Go TROJANS....

Beat the bRuins!!!!

Hit Man X · #7 12-03-2005, 01:50 PM

It's not able to be done to our vintage iron... it was built in a time where there were very few emission constraints on them (mechanical devices at best such as EGR as well as the cats on the later ones).

Think of late 60s trucks and cars, no emission stuff at all. You're not required to run it but you can if you wish. Heck, after 25 years a vehicle only needs a safety inspection here.

DieselAddict · #8 12-03-2005, 01:58 PM

I'm the opposite. I love snow and I couldn't stand living in a place that doesn't get any. I agree that CA is weird. If CARB cares so much about old diesel emissions, then why don't they require annual smog tests like they do over here? I really have no problem taking them, except they are too expensive compared to a gas smog test. If they're going to test new diesel cars the same way they test new gasser cars, then it's only fair enough to require all new SUV's and pickup trucks to pass the same test as well. Afterall they all fall under the same category when it comes driver licenses and registration.

Meta6981 · #9 12-03-2005, 02:00 PM

Yeah i am waiting for next years letter from CARB wanting me to sell my beloved helga for 400 dollars to californa for them to put my diesel out of commision to decrease emissions. I tear up the bullcrap and spit on it. Maybe if it was a resonable offer like say 4 grand i might consider it then get into another diesel.

CARB

Nate · #10 12-03-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Meta6981

Yeah i am waiting for next years letter from CARB wanting me to sell my beloved helga for 400 dollars to californa for them to put my diesel out of commision to decrease emissions. I tear up the bullcrap and spit on it. Maybe if it was a resonable offer like say 4 grand i might consider it then get into another diesel.

CARB

NOOOO dont do it man... theyre gonna crush it if you do that with anything...

Why do CARB vehicals get worse MPG, and die quicker than fed vehicals? That confuses the heck outta me

Isnt the goal to go dur other way?

And its not just cheese here... Its Cheese (better then yours

), brats, and beer... (dont try millwalkies finest)...
with snow, its fun to watch the southies struggle, and the northies have a blast. "Sir, I'm only seeing what my vehical does in an emergency situation, so if i hit an icy spot in traffic I know what to do" Havent had time to use that one yet... only got my temps

Which I have met all the requirements for... except the friggin age requirement... Am I going to be a better driver in <3 months?

Thats all
~Nate

Meta6981 · #11 12-03-2005, 02:23 PM

I wasn't planning on selling my pride and joy. And why carbs run crappier is because they put all kinds of extras on the motors to reduce emissions. CARB can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

Donald Abenheim · #12 12-03-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Meta6981

Yeah i am waiting for next years letter from CARB wanting me to sell my beloved helga for 400 dollars to californa for them to put my diesel out of commision to decrease emissions. I tear up the bullcrap and spit on it. Maybe if it was a resonable offer like say 4 grand i might consider it then get into another diesel.

CARB

Just the very same letters did I receive, actually. I think it was from the Santa Clara Clean air police or the Bay Area Air Quality Board; although I live in Menlo Park, that is, just over the line in neighboring San Mateo county. But I constantly received letters inviting me to destroy my beloved 240D, which I then gave to a friend in so. California, who then destroyed it (the car..) through neglect. My 1999 E300 is also able to lay smoke (Nebelwerfer), especially visible at night under a leaden foot, so no doubt someone here will denounce me, as well. Why cannot one import a nice, late model Diesel from Germany at a fraction of the price? I referred elsewhere to the nice diesel A180 that I drove from Wien nach Berlin, recently. Very efficient, especially at more than six dollars a gallon for diesel there---but also with little consumption of fuel at speeds of 160 and 170kmh. If you look in the internet, there was black ice just now on the very stretch of Autobahn, with injuries yesterday...

notlostmaybe · #13 12-03-2005, 10:14 PM

in california:

a few years ago the state regulators (all hired, non elected) proposed
banning older cars.

people reacted. you could smell the fear in sacramento. the proposal
disappeared.

sadly, the regulators still live

they have not given up.

don

TheDon · #14 12-03-2005, 11:48 PM

i say .. thats stupid ban old cars.. well if it means all old cars then it must be all.. no classics at all.. leno will have to move out of state and so will alot of movie stars that have collectable cars. and people wont be able to commute .. the people that cant afford new cars like the mother with 3 children and her 1979 olds wagon.. well then california your just a bunch or damn liberals.. (governemt not the people.. well most of them but not the members here)

SirNik84 · #15 12-04-2005, 01:34 PM

California is a pile of crap. everythign is more expencive here. i'd like to get a new car except for the fact that i can't afford everythign else in my life, and then have to take on the extra burdon of paying for the car payments and the extra insurance, and the leagal crap. i liked it when my dad gave me my 300SD. i walked into DMV gave them the pink, they say thanks and the car was mine. no bull****. no smog, not nothing.. that way its supose to be!

Nik