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Old 12-06-2005, 10:58 PM
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12 Below? No problem!

The 300D cranked right over this morning. Checked the thermometer, it was 12 below! I just installed a block heater in the lower radiator hose, and adjusted the valves over the weekend, sure enough she fired right up! But on the downside, she just informed me that I need to replace the starter soon (lots of clicking of the gears), perfect winter job LOL. Any tips?

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Valves affect cold start?

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The 300D cranked right over this morning. Checked the thermometer, it was 12 below! I just installed a block heater in the lower radiator hose, and adjusted the valves over the weekend, sure enough she fired right up! But on the downside, she just informed me that I need to replace the starter soon (lots of clicking of the gears), perfect winter job LOL. Any tips?
No tips. Sorry. But that is awesome. My 81 300D in 30F takes 30 minutes of cranking to start. The glow plug resistance test passes. The relay is giving voltage to all glowplugs. After the car is run initially, it wil start right up the rest of the day, even after 3 or 4 hours of sitting. Also my starter is doing the same thing. It sounds like it is slipping. What year and mileage is your car? Mine is 81 300D with 99,000 miles.

I have some clattery valves and was wondering if that may affect cold starting. Also, i will check the fuel start of delivery as the Haynes manual says that is a cause for trouble starting in the cold. Any after that i guess I will check that the glow plugs are really heating up.



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I fried the 4ga battery cable to the starter trying to start mine at 10* on #2? (summer oil)... 76 300d, 120k miles. Didnt click the starter, but did have issues with the cables (cheapest man who spends the most )

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Old 12-06-2005, 11:48 PM
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Good Gravy! I couldn't even walk out to my car if it was 12 below, so it wouldn't matter if it started or not!!
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Good Gravy! I couldn't even walk out to my car if it was 12 below, so it wouldn't matter if it started or not!!
it was -8 this morning with the wind chill, and I bike to school... Allbiet only a 5 min ride, but BURRR... And of course my shifters frozen, so the rides done in 3rd gear

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It's only 0deg F outside here tonight. Glowed for 30 sec starter cranked for a good 30 sec, no sign of life. Took the Subaru to work. It's supposed to be -6 in the morning when I go home. I did not have the block heater plugged in, I can't plug it in at work, so I needed to see if it would start without the heater. It's going to be a cold night working outside tonight.
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Yes. Valves adjustment affects cold start and ..

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I have some clattery valves and was wondering if that may affect cold starting. Also, i will check the fuel start of delivery as the Haynes manual says that is a cause for trouble starting in the cold. Any after that i guess I will check that the glow plugs are really heating up.
After reading more on this forum, I found that indeed the valve adjustment does make cold starting harder. Also glow plugs can pass resistance tests and have voltage to them and yet not heat up.
New ones will get red hot fast while old ones will just get warm. I think I will be ordering a new set of plugs at any rate.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:37 AM
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Lightbulb Sub zero temperature

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The 300D cranked right over this morning. Checked the thermometer, it was 12 below! I just installed a block heater in the lower radiator hose, and adjusted the valves over the weekend, sure enough she fired right up! But on the downside, she just informed me that I need to replace the starter soon (lots of clicking of the gears), perfect winter job LOL. Any tips?
I hope you are running 0W40 synthetic engine oil for Sub zero temperatures, it will raise cranking speed, and put less stress/wear on your starter.
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I guess I wont complain about the 29 degree yesterday morning. I always plug my clock heater in, when the car is at the house. At school I just let the glow plugs do the work.
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I guess I wont complain about the 29 degree yesterday morning. I always plug my clock heater in, when the car is at the house. At school I just let the glow plugs do the work.
Where can I get a clock heater??? ROFL
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Funny Roy, I was just thinking the same thing!
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:45 PM
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Perhaps a new option?

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Funny Roy, I was just thinking the same thing!
Perhaps a new option?
Are you still up at the locks enjoying the arctic chill?
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Plugging in at work not needed...

I have found that once the car is warmed up in the morning that even setting for 9 hours at work is no big deal. I think there is still some residual heat in the oil although at minus 12 that may not be the case. But I never have a problem after work but then I have only tested down to about 10 degrees farenheit so far this year.
Strong battery and 50 dollars worth of glow plug insurance every fall really helps.
Anyone try mounting a group 24 on the drivers fender for additional cranking power? Looks like it could fit and that extra power could really come in handy at times. The oither idea I am curious about is mounting an oil pan heater JC Whitney) with an inverter hooked to a group 24 deep cycle. Wonder if you could get enough juice out of that battery to heat the pan up a bit to help the cold starts? Other option would be the 12 volt RV tank heaters. It is just a pad design you could probably hang to the pan without too much work.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:14 PM
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Perhaps a new option?
Are you still up at the locks enjoying the arctic chill?
Yepper, still at the Soo. The office is 2 blocks from the locks, not too much longer before they're froze over though. This mornings temp was a balmy 3F, soon it'll be jacket weather .
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oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I installed a manual switch for the glow plugs. I usually let the plugs heat for about 15 to 20 seconds before I crank her over in this type of weather. Thanks for mentioning the 0w-40 oil, I didn't know such an oil exsisted.

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