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Antifreeze, Ethylene glycol intoxication, Toxicity, Metabolic Acidosis
"DANGER": Sweet smell in the car = one possible answer:
Heater core or cooling system is leaking into passenger cabin = breathing it can damage or KILL you. Allergies in your family may make the affects worse. Ethylene glycol intoxication http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000774.htm#Symptoms Ethylene Glycol Intoxication Symptoms & Signs http://health.allrefer.com/health/ethylene-glycol-intoxication-symptoms.html Material Safety Data Sheet Ethylene Glycol http://www.sciencestuff.com/msds/C1722.html Toxicity, Ethylene Glycol http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic177.htm GLOSSARY Acute Exposure -- Exposure to a chemical for a http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:rkP0LzHF8nMJ:www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp96-c9.pdf+Ethylene+glycol+neurotoxicity&hl=en Applied Toxicology http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:M3dkYbb4apsJ:aquaticpath.umd.edu/appliedtox/organics.pdf+Ethylene+glycol+neurotoxicity&hl=en Metabolic Acidosis http://health.allrefer.com/health/metabolic-acidosis-info.html Treatment of Ethylene Glycol Poisoning http://www.aafp.org/afp/20020901/807.html Ethylene Glycol http://www.mnpoison.org/index.asp?pageID=155 Material Safety Data Sheet Ethylene Glycol http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/ethylene_glycol.htm Edit new data: Hazard Summary-Created in April 1992; Revised in January 2000 http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/ethy-gly.html
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Interesting...I wasn't aware breathing it was so dangerous....thats very good to know.
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Thank You
The Navy trained me to be a mechanic, but they never bothered to tell us it was an inhalation hazard.
I guess I got lucky when the heater core went out in my Lincoln Town Car. Most of the juice leaked out through a hole in the firewall and ended up outside the car.
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Cats and dogs WILL drink antifreeze and can die from it; my neighbor's two cats died from it a couple of years ago.
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I wish I could get something that isn't poisonous. The "non-toxic" AF isn't approved as far as I know for MB's, and you have to have a special tester for it.
At the very least, they could add something to it to make it taste absolutely horrible to animals.
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Speaking of cats and dogs, there was an interesting thing on one of the science channels about a year ago which spoke about anti-freeze poisoning and pets. I spill anti-freeze from time to time, and have pets so payed attention but...and I hope someone who took advanced chemistry will chime in here...they noted that in animals, the same receptors which take up the ethylene glycol also take up ethanol (ethyl alcohol aka liquor) and that if your pet ingests anti-freeze, giving it liquor might help to bind the receptors thus giving you extra time to get your pet to the Vet. In reading the details of the nasty stuff that anti-freeze does it mentions that ethanol ingestion, either before or after...unsure, delays the onset of metabolism. I don't want to suggest that getting you dog blasted will cure it if it chugs Prestone...but it makes sense that it might buy you some time to save it's life. Of course, if it's a dog you hate...no comment. And I can see the jokes coming already...ok...but it's still a good question. Damn....
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And here it is: Coolant disposal Danny
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Now I know why my elevator doesn't go up to the top floor and I am usually about three frenchfries short of a happy meal. Seriously though I am glad you gave the heads up Whunter I didn't know breathing the fumes were that dangerous.
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For the record it does taste like ****. I was under a radiator pulling a lowerhose that was supposidly empty but still about 3/4 full and got doused with the stuff. Didn't swallow any but not an experence I want to repeat.
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this "Sweet smell" does it smell like maple syrup? I smelled that yesterday on the way home. Only for a little while thou not the entire time. After a while it started to smell bad...almost burnt or something like that.
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Take a whiff of what is in there. It smells sweeter, and stronger when hot. A micro leak will release STEAM vapor into your passenger compartment = slow poison. |
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How on earth would a person force feed hard liquor to an animal?
Do you put it in a turkey baster and then force it down the animal's throat?
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Force???
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Leave a bowel of beer outside, animals will suck it up quick. |
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I gave my dog beer last night (about 1/8 bottle)... He really seamed to like it. It wont happen again, but he had a "supprized' look on his face It was accually kinda funny. We've never done that before, and it wont happen again. Good for a laugh just once
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