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Old 12-15-2005, 08:11 AM
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I would say that black ice could be a factor, but driver failing to take the possibility of black ice into consideration would be a more reasonable cause (i.e. human error).
I'm more willing to bet a cell phone that was in use by the driver had a large factor in the accident.

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Old 12-15-2005, 05:16 PM
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LOL. I'm starting to think that the gang of outlaws that designed the W126 must have done their apprenticeship at River Rouge or Windsor. Right now, I'm doing a full frontend rebuild on my SDL and I gotta say that it has to be one of the more frustrating cars I've turned a wrench on in the last couple of years (ok, ok, granted, my recent wrenching has been confined to W123s and my old John Deere).
It doesn't end there R Leo. A person can't buy a decent 3/4 ton pickup truck any more. The new ones are so tall that you have to be built like Wilt Chamberlain to reach over the side of the box to get something out of it. Even if you open the tail gate you still need a step ladder to get in the box. At least my old 1951 Chev 3/4 ton Mickey Rooney could get over the side. At 5'9" I'm not the tallest guy in the world but I'm far from the shortest. When one of those overgrown $hitboxes (piloted by a 90 pound soccer mom yaking on her cell phone) comes at me when I'm in my Benz I want to run for cover.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:32 PM
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I agree-when I drive my 300D to the mall (or any other lg parking lot) I feel like an ant in the grass-hiding amongst the SUV pile. It's a good thing the M-Bs are built well-they give you a fighting chance in a wreck.
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I am pleasantly amused to see the SUVs in the ditch around here when it snows while I chug along steadily in my 124.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:22 PM
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I am pleasantly amused to see the SUVs in the ditch around here when it snows while I chug along steadily in my 124.

As am I
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:36 PM
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State Trooper OK After Van Hits His Patrol Car

State Trooper OK After Van Hits His Patrol Car

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Old 12-15-2005, 10:17 PM
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People do not drive thier vehicles to the conditions of the roads. Its ridiculus. Out here about the worst we get is flooded roads and rain. I have seen so many cars in the bushes to the side of the road. In normal conditions i drive maybe 5-10 MPH over the speedlimit. When it rains i cruise below the speed limit and play it cool. Sure people go zooming by me then to watch them freekout when they hydro plain going accross intersections. Its annoying.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:47 AM
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BTW if you notice similar "tube shaped devices" in the doors as supports for crashes...they are there for a reason.

Its a requirement (euro spec models didn't have the bars and they were installed as part of the certification in the US) so thats why you see the same size tube in a camry, benz, etc.

Now the game is different I guess but the tubes in the door are not that uncommon. Think of it as a little cage

I was taking apart a 500SEL one time at a wrecking yard (euro model) and you could see where bolts/bars were welded in place inside the doors. By no means as strong as the US spec setup but it put them under compliance I guess.

Personally I would want those
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:41 PM
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BTW if you notice similar "tube shaped devices" in the doors as supports for crashes...they are there for a reason.

Its a requirement (euro spec models didn't have the bars and they were installed as part of the certification in the US) so thats why you see the same size tube in a camry, benz, etc.

Now the game is different I guess but the tubes in the door are not that uncommon. Think of it as a little cage

I might add that I did not find the tube shaped side impact bars in the doors of the earlier model Camry's that I looked at (around 1990/91 model years) and then I looked at the doors in a 1991 Toyota Corolla and there was nothing but the thin sheet metal skins. It would seem that they started to add the tube shaped impact bars somewhere around year 1993-94.

I wonder how adding one bar in the door makes much of a difference but I guess it is structually designed to absorb and divert a lot of energy. All of the MB's that I've seen have something like it inside the doors.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:48 AM
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I believe it is there to support a large portion of lateral (front to back) ridgity and make it so the doors don't taco when you get in a front impact.

I am sure it has some side impact qualities as well which put it right at about most cars bumpers/engines so I am sure it helps.

Both of my rigs have em...

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