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Old 12-26-2005, 09:34 AM
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No, they don't warp faster. They're just fine. I will continue with the Chinese part.



Next you'll tell me that those rotors add 10 years to your life or that they make you thinner and more handsome.

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Old 12-26-2005, 11:10 AM
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I dunno bout that. I went with Chicom rotors on my wife's Lincoln. Replaced them twice before I gave up and bought Brembos. Now no more brake shake.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:39 PM
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No, they don't warp faster. They're just fine. I will continue with the Chinese part.



Next you'll tell me that those rotors add 10 years to your life or that they make you thinner and more handsome.
well maybe they do
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Hmmm ... this thread has become very interesting - I had lots of questions initially - mainly along the line of "what does the micrometer read for "brake" thickness?" Pretty mundane stuff.

Re some of the follow-up posts

1. Why would you want to replace bearings (barings? :-))when they simply need to be serviced?

2. Why would one want to buy Chinese anything? (Sorry - it's a "whose side are you on" with me on China (remember, they knock our aircraft down and hold our military folks hostage? ... how long will it take before greedy corporate world and weirdly price sensitive Americans/Europeans conspire (however so accidentally) to ensure China is in position to own all production (until a lower priced location is found) ... cost is not everything! (am now off soapbox)

3. Am still laughing about cryo treated brake materials for a 120 hp car ....

4. Packing grease into the rotors?

5. Last I heard, pushing pedal to floor during brake bleeding can damage seals ...

6. If there is nothing wrong with your front (or rear) brakes why would changing them make anything better?

7. Why would you want to buy the cheapest of anything (especially a rotor) and then spend extra on other parts of the same subsystem?
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Old 12-26-2005, 05:42 PM
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Hello stephenson

Personal choice, no harm done. RE: Why would you want to replace bearings when they simply need to be serviced?

As am I. RE: Am still laughing about cryo treated brake materials for a 120 hp car ....

You must pack grease into the bearing hub to feed bearings, not rotor, that was just a case of poor wording.

Pushing the brake pedal to floor during brake bleeding, can NOT damage seals in a good master cylinder, such a condition would be a CRITICAL SAFETY = NHTSA issue.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration = (NHTSA).

Please define; nothing wrong with your brakes.
I know many people who compulsively replace brake pads at 75%.

Why would you want to buy the cheapest of anything = P E H, please help!!!

The second portion of this question defies logic:
and then spend extra on other parts of the same subsystem?
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:43 PM
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Every sring I flush the brake fluid by pumping the pedal. If that causes the master cylinder to blow it was marginal and needed replacing anyway.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:21 PM
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we all have diff. opinions on what grade,brand and such on the things we buy. ive learned to always buy the best i can afford because in most cases it will last longer. my dad has always bought the cheaper stuff and all through the years this and that is always breaking. thats alot of my reason for the things i buy. on the subject of rotors, i always try to get the ate and other higher brands. not only are they highly regarded and i have had good luck with them but that is what mb put on the car originaly. thats just my thoughts
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These would look so cool behind the wheels, with body matched calipers of course...

http://www.brakeworld.com/catalog.asp?page_id=items&catid=1
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These would look so cool behind the wheels, with body matched calipers of course...

http://www.brakeworld.com/catalog.asp?page_id=items&catid=1

At $290. per pair, I think you better pass.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:57 PM
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Well the price on those are nuts, I think I can get Zimmerman for $90 each.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:23 PM
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Well the price on those are nuts, I think I can get Zimmerman for $90 each.
they look cool, but unless you run a road course racing you will actualy loose reliability on long mountain grades as less mass equals higher brake temps sooner....and you can heat them high enough to warp them on a long hill. This is one case where factory un-cross drilled rotors have the edge on performance.

I've run both on another car...so I have a reference point from experience.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:54 PM
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these are pretty nice. i had a set of them on my old sd. once i get ahead in money again im gonna get a new set. your problem probly isnt the rotors. take a look at your calipers,hoses and maybe try changing the brake fluid and bleeding the system. the pic i attached i think is the best. i dont really like the cross drilled as they can crack at the holes and then they are worthless
I've got a pair of these rotors for my w123 wagon rebuild project, I'am upgrading the front brakes to w126 Bendix 4 piston calipers, with that kind of braking force I'll be certian that I can now smoke the tires!
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I've got a pair of these rotors for my w123 wagon rebuild project, I'am upgrading the front brakes to w126 Bendix 4 piston calipers, with that kind of braking force I'll be certian that I can now smoke the tires!
I can lock up 225/50-16 Toyo Proxies with little effort on my factory stock brakes.....I just put new calipers on them..saw no need to upgrade to anything else. And I am hyper critical about brakes....but have no gripes with the factory setup I have found so far.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:05 PM
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True, I locked up the wheels in Shabby last week, I was spacing out.... Hmmm yellow light turning red..... It taught me to remember HOW to brake, ABS has ruined my ability to "feel" the brake in a panic situation...
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I can lock up 225/50-16 Toyo Proxies with little effort on my factory stock brakes.....I just put new calipers on them..saw no need to upgrade to anything else. And I am hyper critical about brakes....but have no gripes with the factory setup I have found so far.
same here. the stock mercedes brake system is better than most factory setups
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