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Old 01-03-2006, 01:29 AM
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I, also, have had excellent service out of Johnson Controls made batteries in several different sized cars. They were OEM in Toyota Camry for several years.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:55 AM
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Since this is back I will recommend the MB dealer battery. Its a reasonable price and it has been great so far in my 240D.
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Its a reasonable price and it has been great so far in my 240D.
The cheapest Wal-Mart battery will be "great" for the first 2-3 years.

It's not a battery evaluation until seven have elapsed. Then you can claim "great" if you still have it and it can start the engine at 20F.
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Though I usually recommend NOT buying at Walmart,

Most of the stuff you get at Walmart, costs less, because it IS less. It's usually cheap quality items, from China. The US is sending all their money to China, while we're losing jobs here. If the trend continues, America won't be earning the money, to buy the inferior products, that China produces!

So where possible, BUY AMERICAN. I'd rather you buy clothing made in Bangladesh than China.

But Walmart had the best price on a battery, by far. Not sure where they're made, I assume the USA due to the weight of shipping a battery would make it less feasible to import them from abroad. Batteries elsewhere were about $140. Walmart's was $80 or so, and has been working fine for probably 3 years for me so far.
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So where possible, BUY AMERICAN.

Unless the price is cheap. Then buy from China:


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But Walmart had the best price on a battery, by far............and has been working fine for probably 3 years for me so far.

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Old 08-03-2013, 10:36 AM
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Most of the stuff you get at Walmart, costs less, because it IS less. It's usually cheap quality items, from China. The US is sending all their money to China, while we're losing jobs here. If the trend continues, America won't be earning the money, to buy the inferior products, that China produces!

So where possible, BUY AMERICAN. I'd rather you buy clothing made in Bangladesh than China.

But Walmart had the best price on a battery, by far. Not sure where they're made, I assume the USA due to the weight of shipping a battery would make it less feasible to import them from abroad. Batteries elsewhere were about $140. Walmart's was $80 or so, and has been working fine for probably 3 years for me so far.
... 3 years ago, wally had decent priced batteries... now they are same as everybody else. however, IF you swap them every 3 years forfree, it doesn't matter...
their free replacement has me comming back for more every 3 years...
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Go to walmart and buy the cheapest china made bathroom scales. Take it over to the automotive section of the store and weigh the battery that fits your car. Write down the weight. Leave with the scales and go to the dealer and weigh their battery, weigh an Interstate battery... Buy the one that weighs the most since it will have heavier plates.

Toss the scales in the trash since they will be worn out at this point.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:11 AM
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I run an interstate battery on my w116 300sd but I've been told that the best battery for my car is made by BOSCH. Bosch batteries are also good for cars that are not daily driven. I believe Kent from mercedes source has also recommended them
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:13 AM
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I've been running Autozone batteries for a couple decades or so now. I have had very good luck.

last summer I had two of the big diesel batteries for the 123s go bad. I checked and both were 10 years old on a 7 year guarantee.
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I've been running Autozone batteries for a couple decades or so now. I have had very good luck.

last summer I had two of the big diesel batteries for the 123s go bad. I checked and both were 10 years old on a 7 year guarantee.
If you compare your 10 year old autozone battery to a new autozone battery you'll find that the new one will be much lighter. Last time I picked up an autozone group 49 battery, I was surprised how light it was. Needless to say I did not buy one.

Does Optima make a battery that fit the 123 diesels?
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Most of the stuff you get at Walmart, costs less, because it IS less. It's usually cheap quality items, from China. The US is sending all their money to China, while we're losing jobs here. If the trend continues, America won't be earning the money, to buy the inferior products, that China produces!

So where possible, BUY AMERICAN. I'd rather you buy clothing made in Bangladesh than China.

But Walmart had the best price on a battery, by far. Not sure where they're made, I assume the USA due to the weight of shipping a battery would make it less feasible to import them from abroad. Batteries elsewhere were about $140. Walmart's was $80 or so, and has been working fine for probably 3 years for me so far.

Walmart batteries are made by Johnson Controls. They been the sole supplier since 2010.

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That doesn't mean that there are no differences in the alloys, plate mass and sizing, etc.

Ive not had good luck with WM batteries.

Advance auto silver line is the best value going. Don't know if it fits, but they also sell an H9 battery which is a tad bit larger than a 49, has serviceable filler ports, and more CCA and RC because of its size/mass, not tricks on the plates.
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If you compare your 10 year old autozone battery to a new autozone battery you'll find that the new one will be much lighter. Last time I picked up an autozone group 49 battery, I was surprised how light it was. Needless to say I did not buy one.

Does Optima make a battery that fit the 123 diesels?
Well, yes, they will fit, but when I checked them out @ AutoZone several years ago, their best CCA battery was 650 IIRC. The MB diesels are going to need the 750 CCA, as a minimum.

-IF, I am correct on the above info., which I may not be. Pls correct me if I am wrong, folks. I'm here to learn, TOO!
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