|
|
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
OEM spring for 300sd causing high front end
300sd's sit a lot higher in the front end than gasser 126's. This past fall I was at a local MB shop and compared a 420sel (stock oem) with my 300sd. There was a huge difference in front ride height. The 420 sat at least 2 inches lower than my 300sd. I noticed that the 380, 420, and 500 all use the same front spring 74140 (Fastlane) and the 300sd and 560 use the same front spring 74141. Does the 5 liter V8 weigh more that the 3 liter diesel? Why can't I use the 74140 spring in my 300sd to get a lower front ride height. Does anyone know the weight specs for all the different engines. I'm completely rebuilding my suspension and want to get rid of the huge front gap above the front tire. I can't imagine that anyone of us is pleased with the way our front ends sit up sky-high. Could it really be as simple as getting the other oem spring????
|
#2
|
||||
|
||||
I'd imagine the larger v8's are slightly heavier than the 617 or 603, but the engine compartments of those cars have more junk in them too...perhaps adding some weight as well.
While they may use the same springs, are the rest of the suspension components the same? Maybe there's something else that makes the gasser's sit lower..... I know I can sit on my front bumper and the car doesn't go down barely an inch, so there can't be that much extra weight in the gasser compartments to lower it that much.... (I'm around 165)
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
I enjoy this as well, I've ridden in other cars and think "jeeze these ride low to the ground" The MB diesels have a "high" feeling to them. Great for driving over things....
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Personally I like every bit of suspension travel I can get...espically when it comes to the roads around here!
I can give up a few inches of ride height for better ride quality (my 16" wheels) and not having to worry about killing my oil pan again |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
actually
i think the v8s weigh less than a diesel by a good measure. the aluminum ones. that would be 380 and up.
tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
have no worries.....President Obama swears "If you like your gun, you can keep it |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
'79 300SD W116 '86 190E 2.3-16V W201 '92 300D 2.5 W124 '99 E320 4MATIC S210 |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
I, too, don't like the high front ends on both the SD and the SDL. It does seem that the suspension is at the very end of the shock travel when loaded with just the vehicle weight. This does not seem proper as the wheel does not have very much travel downward and has a massive amount of travel upward.
I'm very interested in finding a softer spring for the front of the SD and the SDL. In fact, I'm seriously thinking of cutting the existing springs, but this would result in a stiffer spring.........exactly the opposite of what I want. Please keep us posted if you decide to switch to the gasser springs. It might be an excellent choice for the diesels........especially with the poor road conditions that most of us face. Seriously, you don't need anywhere near five inches of suspension travel upward. I'll bet than nobody even gets close to 3" of travel. |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
Springs should be ordered based on the VIN number of the car, and not just based on a car's model number. Individual cars of the same model use different springs. It even makes a difference wether you car has a sunroof or not.
Many years ago, my indy ordered front springs for my '83 300SD. Those springs made my car seem very low in front. It seems that he ordered springs for an '83 300SD that does not have a sunroof, mine did, so the weight of the sunroof made the difference. He removed and reinstalled the proper springs. The car height then looked normal. There are many other variables as well, . So make sure that your springs have been ordered for your specific VIN number.
__________________
'95 E300 Diesel, 264,000 Miles. [Sold it] |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
sorry
but i cant imagine that the sunroof option triggers different springs.
brian, i like the way that the sdl rides. personally. lots of travel is the reason a benz will run away from many sports cars on rough roads. i also like the way that my gasser 500sec rides. yeah, i like the idea of running over rough tracks with a tailgater close behind. tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
There is a point value assigned to all the options on the vehicle such as sunroofs, level control, electric windows, adjustable rear seat, etc. The total number of points is added up to a specific value. In the case of the SD, model 126.120, the total number of points is 11 for the base vehicle. The sunroof adds 3 points, the auto trans adds 2 points, the electric windows adds 1 point. The typical SD in the US would therefore have a value of 17 points. For the "standard suspension" the point value of 17 uses p/n 1163241104 spring with either the 9.5mm or 14mm rubber spacer. There is a longer spring for the W126, p/n 1163240804, but it is not used until the point value gets up to 23 points or more. |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
whoooah
brian, where are you finding this info?
i am jealous. tom w
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|