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imdavid28 · #16 02-06-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ConnClark

From my understanding Mercedes has told its staff its up to the costumer to request it.

Mercedes is pretty sneaky about their recalls. A fellow German co-worker told me of a story with his uncles MB. He went to go get the oil changed, and the dealership ran the VIN and such while he was dropping it off. They were more than happy to ask him if he wanted to take out their new top of the line car for a ride for lunch, then come back in 45 min or so when they were done. So he took them up on his offer, ate lunch, messed around with the car and came back where his car was waiting for him. Being someone who cares about his car and the quality of work done on it, he looked over the car to see how they did, where upon his inspection he noticed that the rear end was replaced...

Brian Carlton · #17 02-06-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by imdavid28

.............then come back in 45 min or so when they were done. ........................where upon his inspection he noticed that the rear end was replaced...

Somehow, I don't think it happened quite like this.

ConnClark · #18 02-06-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thelazzarusman

Anyone else have the recall done? Do you think the "modern" dealership will even know what to do?

My 85 300SD is FINALLY getting the recall work done on Feb 8th.

Here is what happens,

Day 1: First you take your car to the service department at the dealer and say you want to have the trap oxidizer recall work done. Then they will say "what!?!?". Then you say "Trap Oxidizer Recall" .Then they will say "We need to look this up and see if it is still in effect". Then they sneek off and laugh at you for buying a Californian emissions car. They will then come back and say, "Yep its still in effect. We need to schedual a time so we can inspect it." You then schedual a time to have the inspection done. Finally you go home and undo all the bypassing and disabling of the emissions equipment you have done.

Inspection Day: You bring the car in to leave it at the service department. Along the way you pull over on the highway and whack the trap oxidizer a few times with something that won't leave a mark so that it fractures and takes out your turbo.

Next they bring it into the shop and look under the hood and see the trap oxidizer and say "Hey look at that! Thats gotta be the stupidest place in the world to stick a piece of emmisions equipment". Then they pull apart your turbo chargers turbine section to discover the damage you hopefully caused. If you forgot to sabotage it or were honest and unlucky they won't find any damage and will put the turbo back together and check for other things to try and get you to fix to recoupe the some of the loss. Finally they call you and tell you its ready and then tell you "Yep... it has a trap oxidizer and we need to order parts to replace it. We will call you when the parts come in so we can schedual a time to have it done." You then take the car and go home.

During the next couple of weeks you keep very careful track of your mileage so you can see if it goes up any after the recall work is done. Finally they call you and you set an appointment.

Appointment day: You drop the car off and they bring it in to work on it. They then have trouble with one of the bolts and discover that they have none to replace it if it breaks. They call you and say "We need to reschedule because we don't have all the parts, we will call you when they come in". You are crushed and take the car home.

A couple weeks pass by and then they call you to set up the final appointment.

This is as far as I have gotten so far... Sorry to leave you hanging.

But seriously, somewhere on this forum are the tech documents in pdf that describes what is done. I would seriously consider getting a replacement down pipe made first. Muffler shops won't want to do it afterwards and I doubt you find a replacement for pre recall californian down pipes.

Boardmonger · #19 02-06-2006, 08:12 PM

Why does everyone say to save the down pipe? Is the cat located in the new pipe, or something like that?

After browsing ebay yesterday I found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-Sedan_W0QQitemZ4611034903QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Doesn't look too bad, but boy I could never take that interior.

ConnClark · #20 02-06-2006, 08:18 PM

"Why does everyone say to save the down pipe? Is the cat located in the new pipe, or something like that?"

Yep

Hit Man X · #21 02-06-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boardmonger

Why does everyone say to save the down pipe? Is the cat located in the new pipe, or something like that?

After browsing ebay yesterday I found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-Sedan_W0QQitemZ4611034903QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Doesn't look too bad, but boy I could never take that interior.

Hey now! I have a maroon interior with a black exterior

But yes, the downpipe contains the cat after the recall... well it's supposed to. Mine disappeared somehow.

Boardmonger · #22 02-06-2006, 08:57 PM

Well that's what I figured but just wanted to make sure.

I know everyone has their own personal preferences, and for me I would rather have a green interior over a burgandy one. To each his or her own.

imdavid28 · #23 02-06-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Somehow, I don't think it happened quite like this.

I don't think he would lie to me. If they done enough of them, I am sure they could turn it out pretty quick. I heard of the guys at Mopar dealerships doing head jobs in less than 45min.

dieseldiehard · #24 02-07-2006, 01:29 AM

ConnClark said:
>> My 85 300SD is FINALLY getting the recall work done on Feb 8th.

>>Here is what happens,

>>Day 1: First you take your car to the service department at the dealer and say you want to have the trap oxidizer recall work done. Then they will say "what!?!?". Then you say "Trap Oxidizer Recall" .Then they will say "We need to look this up and see if it is still in effect". Then they sneek off and laugh at you for buying a Californian emissions car. They will then come back and say, "Yep its still in effect. We need to schedual a time so we can inspect it." You then schedual a time to have the inspection done. Finally you go home and undo all the bypassing and disabling of the emissions equipment you have done.

Tell them its being submitted for the Open Campaign to replace the trap oxidizer and see them thinking "oh hell, we got an experienced customer here, this guy knows his stuff we can't pull any fast ones on him, better call the shop manager!"

>>Inspection Day: You bring the car in to leave it at the service department. Along the way you pull over on the highway and whack the trap oxidizer a few times with something that won't leave a mark so that it fractures and takes out your turbo.

Next they bring it into the shop and look under the hood and see the trap oxidizer and say "Hey look at that! Thats gotta be the stupidest place in the world to stick a piece of emmisions equipment". Then they pull apart your turbo chargers turbine section to discover the damage you hopefully caused. If you forgot to sabotage it or were honest and unlucky they won't find any damage and will put the turbo back together and check for other things to try and get you to fix to recoupe the some of the loss. Finally they call you and tell you its ready and then tell you "Yep... it has a trap oxidizer and we need to order parts to replace it. We will call you when the parts come in so we can schedual a time to have it done." You then take the car and go home.

I hadn't figured out how to whack the trap, actually I had to borrow one off a running car because mine was so plugged up the engine would not, I repeat, WOULD NOT even run! and I thought they might return the trap to me so I could return it to its rightful owner. Not!

>>During the next couple of weeks you keep very careful track of your mileage so you can see if it goes up any after the recall work is done. Finally they call you and you set an appointment.

>>Appointment day: You drop the car off and they bring it in to work on it. They then have trouble with one of the bolts and discover that they have none to replace it if it breaks. They call you and say "We need to reschedule because we don't have all the parts, we will call you when they come in". You are crushed and take the car home.

In my case they had the car then called the next day to say the parts they received were the wrong ones, and they had to add two more days to the scheduled completion date, making it stay in their warm shop over the Thanksgiving holiday.

>>..A couple weeks pass by and then they call you to set up the final appointment.

Oh yes, I enjoyed free cookies and coffee as I waited in the waiting area to pick it up, and they washed it I think but it was raining so I can;t say because it was wet when they delivered it to the curb where some distinguished lady was getting out of a new 2000 something gasser with less then 20K miles on it probably. And my Blue 300D turbo with paint missing from the hood and trunk lid, and chortling diesel sound I am sure I left some nice smelling diesel smell in the air as I drove off

>>This is as far as I have gotten so far... Sorry to leave you hanging.
>>But seriously, somewhere on this forum are the tech documents in pdf that describes what is done. I would seriously consider getting a replacement down pipe made first. Muffler shops won't want to do it afterwards and I doubt you find a replacement for pre recall californian down pipes.

After getting my car back from the Open Campaign it ran pretty well but I still had timing issues (I had recently rebuiilt the car and it had zero time on the new engine so there were complications that delayed getting it on the road until late last month).

Last weekend I had the opportunity to examine the exhaust while I had the car on lift to replace the alternator and discovered that the dealer installed the rear muffler crooked with respect toe the chassis, it was easy to fix while the pipes are still clean steel and not rusted together yet. Seems a little quality control on their work would have been welcome

Most importantly, I have located a shop that will make a mandrel drawn system with any type of muffler I want, to replace the whole shooting match, so I am planning on driving 300 miles to have that done I might even have to I stay overnight in a motel if they run over or I get there too late in the day to finish it. I think it will be worth it later when I install the intercooler now sitting in my garage, and jack up the fuel delivery and dork with the ALDA.