I know we have all laughed our asses off on that turbo cyclone power and other fuel savers like it, but this might just be a legit device to do that. Its basically just a honeycomb mesh that sits right infront of your turbo intake. It works by keeping the air from swirling right before it enters the impeller blades as well as reducing any turbulence.

http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/tag

it has legit theory and dyno charts

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http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png

I like this better

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=AB544E3B-5DFF-416D-9CFD-A1AD23CA9564&term=leaf%20blower&p=0

~Nate

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I wish I had that sort of time to blow on a dyno!!!

Not so sure about spraying nitrous oxide into the engine compartment/into an electric motorized leaf blower but it defintely worked

Conn,

I am wondering if the performance product's "increases" could be mirroed with just adjusting the boost up a little?

I am thinking it would be neat to hook up their device and read boost with/without this unit in place.

My guess is that it would help boost build? Seems like once you are on the wastegate you are already using less than the turbo can perform so you are good to go...

Interesting...

Wow...with a leaf blower...thats nuts. LOL.

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Without extra fuel enrichment......looks like it might be a good way to look at the engine's intermals or just kill someone's motor . Hell-uv-a-way to get those "real" impressive dyno numbers tho.. notice how the guy doin the leaf blower on the honda keeps lookn out to see who is watchin --perhaps the unsuspecting owner

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Too bad that in the dyno comparison charts they posted actual HP goes down when using their product (292.7 HP cs 295.8 HP). So you're actually paying to get less power. Go figure that out.

That video is awsome! If I had a Civic I'd add a leaf blower to the hood along with one of those turbo exhuast things just for affect!


Most all of these aftermarket things are snake oil. If it was so good MB would use it from the factory.

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This is an interesting approach, but even in their drawing it seems that having an insert with a right-hand twist, or whatever matches the impeller blade twist would be more effective. Twisting the air in the direction of compression, should at least help the compressor spool more efficiently.

How much of a horsepower gain from all of this maybe 1-2hp at the crank, unfortunately not enough return to justify the investment IMO.

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You are correct, it helps boost build. It help the compressor operate more efficiently. This helps boost build at a slower turbine speed. It also reduces the turbo's outlet temps so you have more air at the same psi like an intercooler just not as efffective. You can tell from the dyno when the truck opens the wastegate because the power and tourqe curves start to match.

Its made in Pasco, I think I'm going to talk to the guy.

now I need to locate a dyno near me.....

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desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png

Its not the peak value that matters as much in a car/truck as the total area under the curve.

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desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png

Actually you want it to not twist the air at all or twist it in the opposite dirrection. If the air is swirling with the compressor the blades cannot bite into the air to move it. They have parts that serve a similar function in jet engines called stator blades that sit in between the compresor stages.

As far as power it might not be worth the money, but in fuel savings it may more than pay for itself in two years. It would only take about a .5 mpg increase.

Edit: The cool thing is it is so simple you can make one yourself

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desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png

The only problem is that the turbo doesn't "bite" air. A helecopter doesn't corkscrew upwards through the air. A boat propeller doesn't corkscrew through the water. It's all pressure differences.

Because it occupies space upstream of the impeller it exerts a small drag on the air passing by it. It does not increase net air momentum normal to the turbine blades because it does not (and cannot) release energy because it does not release mass. It does not work.

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listen, look, .........and duck.

maybe it has special magnets that ionize the air.....giving it magical properties......



Actually I tend to not believe claims that sound too good to be true......they rarely prove to be as claimed.

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