Franz Oil filter on ebay - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

DCM · #16 03-05-2006, 08:11 PM

I put a Frantz on my 73 Camaro when it was new and 10 years later, gave the car to Salvation Army with 235,000 miles on it and it was running good. Five years later, I saw the car sitting in someone's driveway. Should have kept it.

I was nervous about the toilet paper too but there were no problems with that. After the transmission went out, I put one on there too. Then added another to a 72 Malibu that we sold and that is still driving around here.

I saved all the filter and someday hope to put them on a diesel.

Matt L · #17 03-06-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

HERE is a bypass filter base on eBay. It uses a standard Fram PB50 ($4.80).

That is exactly what I was asking about, although there would then be no reason whatsoever to buy his base, as remote filter bases are not terribly expensive at the local speed shop.

bgkast · #18 03-06-2006, 02:24 PM

Wouldn't the increased pressure drop across these finer filters require an auxiliary oil pump? Does any manufacturer make a finer filter to replace the stock element? If so, what is the advantage of using a bypass filter?

kmaysob · #19 03-06-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bgkast

Wouldn't the increased pressure drop across these finer filters require an auxiliary oil pump? Does any manufacturer make a finer filter to replace the stock element? If so, what is the advantage of using a bypass filter?

nothing!! people seem to think that by using these filters you will have to change your oil less often. it needs to be changed at the spec. intervals. oil additives get used up. a finer filter will not replenish the additives. mercedes uses the filter they have now for a reason IT WORKS!

boneheaddoctor · #20 03-06-2006, 03:31 PM

I've never bought one of these even though I have watched them for years....not sure if they really help or not.....has anyone that is truely neutral on this ever ran a long term test?

Matt SD300 · #21 03-06-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob

nothing!! people seem to think that by using these filters you will have to change your oil less often. it needs to be changed at the spec. intervals. oil additives get used up. a finer filter will not replenish the additives. mercedes uses the filter they have now for a reason IT WORKS!

FACT: Oil changes can be safely are extended with true BYPASS oil filtration. Millions are used all around the world. Even the Mercedes 617 oil filter is a combo bypass & half full flow filter. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING SUCH A MISLEADING POST!

Whether you believe it or not...Does not change the fact that is true

Oh Yeah..The additives are replaced by adding oil after the filters have been changed. Plus.. water/acid/fuel in the oil are absorbed by the bypass filter allowing the additives to last much longer. And thats a FACT!

kmaysob · #22 03-06-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

FACT: Oil changes can be safely are extended with true BYPASS oil filtration. Millions are used all around the world. Even the Mercedes 617 oil filter is a combo bypass & half full flow filter. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING SUCH A MISLEADING POST!

Whether you believe it or not...Does not change the fact that is true

Oh Yeah..The additives are replaced by adding oil after the filters have been changed. Plus.. water/acid/fuel in the oil are absorbed by the bypass filter allowing the additives to last much longer. And thats a FACT!

well you just keep on beliving.

i on the other hand will stick with the oe filter setup that i can trust.

imdavid28 · #23 03-06-2006, 08:30 PM

I'm pretty sure that the reason why you change you oil is because of the degridation of the polymers in the oil. They break down simply because the oil is viscous. One of my math teachers did a paper on this. Some crazy stuff.

kmaysob · #24 03-06-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by imdavid28

I'm pretty sure that the reason why you change you oil is because of the degridation of the polymers in the oil. They break down simply because the oil is viscous. One of my math teachers did a paper on this. Some crazy stuff.

some people think simply adding oil will solve that problem. not true

Hatterasguy · #25 03-06-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob

some people think simply adding oil will solve that problem. not true

We got into this awhile back. You have your point of view and others have theirs.

It seems with a filter such as the Franz that they actualy filter soot out of the oil. Now as most of you know soot loading is the limiting factor with our cars. 617's load up after only like 5k miles.

The base stock for the oil never wears out, it gets dirty and the additive wear. Now if the bypass filter can handle the dirt you just need to replenish the additives. According to the guy that I talked to that was running this, if you changed the filters every 5k miles, you would lose about 1-1.5 quarts of oil. If you just topped it off acording to his lab tests the oil always came back good. He hadn't changed his oil in 100k miles and the inside of the engine was as clean as can be, a tick over 300k miles total.

The Navy does this, subs cannot release oil and storing it is a fire hazard. So the run all the lub oil through a centrifigal(sp?) that spins it real fast. All of the dirt comes out and it never needs to be changed. Now if the Navy uses this system on equipment that probably runs into the 7 figure range, and on a sub that can cost $1B I think it safe for our cars.

Hatterasguy · #26 03-06-2006, 09:59 PM

A Frantz oil filter will be going on my 603 this winter!

Here is a link to a thread that has already gone through this.

imdavid28 · #27 03-06-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

A Frantz oil filter will be going on my 603 this winter!

Here is a link to a thread that has already gone through this.

Well in that case, Has anyone seen the last episode of "Will and Grace"???

Matt SD300 · #28 03-06-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob

well you just keep on beliving.

i on the other hand will stick with the oe filter setup that i can trust.

Fact:...No one said YOU have to install a Bypass Filter.

Fact: ...You don't know what your taking about. The TRUTH IS YOUR OPINION IS BASED ON YOUR BELIEFE.... NOT FACT

Please show PROOF that BYPASS Filters DONT WORK. All you have to do is post 10 links (not forums) that say Bypass filters are b.s. Then I'm a idiot & YOUR NOT A LYER!. Now that's fair..right?

Ya ..See I have done my research & YOU HAVE NOT...So drop it before YOU make yourself look more FOOLISH!

kmaysob · #29 03-06-2006, 11:20 PM

never said it doesnt work. im sure it does. but everyone wants one so they can change their oil less often. im sure it filters great. if i remember right you arnt supposed to use standard toilet paper. i belive you want non bleached( does that sound right)? there was probly 10 pages on this discussion before the forum went down. so no i dont think it doesnt work, i know it does. what i know is wrong is trying to say you can replenish the additives by changing the filter and adding a quart.

Matt SD300 · #30 03-06-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob

never said it doesnt work. im sure it does. but everyone wants one so they can change their oil less often. im sure it filters great. if i remember right you arnt supposed to use standard toilet paper. i belive you want non bleached( does that sound right)? there was probly 10 pages on this discussion before the forum went down. so no i dont think it doesnt work, i know it does. what i know is wrong is trying to say you can replenish the additives by changing the filter and adding a quart.

Cool!

Please spend some time and do a search on "BYPASS FILTERS"

I think you will be amazed how they not only clean the oil..but also extend how long oil additives last!...Its pretty cool