'85 300D sold for $20K - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

punky · #16 03-06-2006, 06:31 PM

I don't know how long those guys have been in business but I bought my MB from them 3 years ago. I've always said since then that I should of bought his camera instead of the car. Then open a business taking photos of old ladies because their camera would make the old bags looks 20 years younger and I'd make a fortune.
The seller raved on and on about how beautiful the car was(well, just a very long line of BS). There has been so much botch work done on the car by them that I'm still trying to straighten things out. In person the car was nothing like the shape or condition the seller described. Who knows, maybe they've gotten better at what they do i.e., more honest.

Veloce300DT · #17 03-06-2006, 07:02 PM

Ra_ hit the nail on the head!

W123 300D Turbodiesel values have been creeping up, just as the 300TD values have. And for good reason.

How many of you guys can find a clean W123 sedan that has been garaged all of its life, that has a complete pedigree of records from day one, does not exhibit any signs of aging; ie showroom fresh paintwork, brightwork, upholstery, trimmings, chrome, wheels. A car that you can see the clearest reflection in, the deepest shine, with no flaws. A car that mechanically is in like new condition, that can be lifted upon a hoist by the most stringent of mechanics and pass with flying colors.. A well preserved and cared for car. A 21 year old or older truly immaculate w123 300D Turbo.

Thats a hard car to come by. BUT they exist. And when they are put on the market they should and DO fetch top dollar. They are rare specimens in a sea full of daily driven 20 year old W123's.

Theres no sense in comparing a 20 year old immaculate W123 300D Turbodiesel being sold for anything between $10K to $20K because no other car in my eyes are comparable to a W123 300D Turbodiesel. Sure there are cars with better handling, more features, more performance. But is it a
W123? Im sure many can agree.

And now we have Mercedes-Benz/Daimler Chrysler, officially naming the W123 series a classic automobile. Along with that has come the production of more scale w123 models, w123 books, and more people opening their eyes to the points that make the w123 series a car to be held in a special place in automotive history.

These W123's are probably the first mass produced automobile that really showed the world how a car should be built, and with age have become a classic and iconic design created in an era when automakers were searching for better economy, safety, and construction on a mass market level. The W123 has always and will always forever be a simple car, but as 20 years have passed it has been recognized as much more than a bargain benz. It is a Classic Benz. "Truly unique specimens that are in magnificent condition, can bring a hefty premium, over the accepted price for that model."
Makes sense to me.

blueranger · #18 03-06-2006, 07:13 PM

recently i tried to buy something on ebay and it just kept getting bid up...
until i quit bidding.... it was like my competetor would always out bid me by
a nickle... so i finally quit bidding and the other guy one... and about 5 minutes after the auction was over the seller emailed me and said that he was offering me a second chance becasue the first bidder did not complete the sale.... (this was within 5 minutes of the close) so they thougth i was a ringer..... i told them to drop dead...

Moesauction! · #19 03-06-2006, 07:15 PM

Good way to start people talking i will list all my benziews with a 230,000 reserve hahahahahah

nhdoc · #20 03-06-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra_

Why do you say it didn't sell?
It met the reserve price.

Just because the bidders have zero feedback means nothing.
Many people who buy cars, guitars and other high dollar items on eBay,
are 'first time buyers'.

What would be the point of having shills bid something up
far beyond where similar items usually sell?

You are speculating and presenting your thoughts as facts.

Look, I've bought tons of stuff on ebay. I probably have been on ebay for longer than many of you guys have been driving (I first registered with Auction Web, its first name in 1996) so I have some experience here. I can tell you that of the car auctions that end with the reserve being met that most (meaning more than 50%) don't end with the car being sold. Every car I have bought off ebay (and there have been 6 so far) has been from sellers left hanging by high bidders who, for one reason or another just never completed the sale. Bidding is easier than buying. People love the thrill of bidding, whatever the reason they just land up not paying.

In the case of this particular auction, if the high bidder is legit (which I doubt) he would do well to see that he was bid up to over $20,000 by all zero feedback bidders. This is a classic scam of the "no reserve sellers". They list an item with no reserve then get a bunch of aliases or friends to bid it up. If they are lucky enough to get a sucker on the line who keeps ratcheting up the price they can inflate it higher than they could ever have wished to get with a reasonable reserve. Sellers know the psychology of an auction, the fever and the fact that some people just "won't be outbid, no matter what"...

I'd bet $100 this auction was just somebody having fun with this guy. Probably someone he ripped off previously who just decided to get him all excitied...either way I would say with 99% confidence it won't sell for $20K, period.

engatwork · #21 03-06-2006, 07:55 PM

Seeing as how this one sold for that amount I may try to re-list my '85 300D with only 86k miles and a new evaporator and head gasket. The paint is the original paint and is not perfect but it is a very good low mileage example of this car.

Ra_ · #22 03-06-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nhdoc

FYI - here's its last go around:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4612972599

Here it went for less than half what it got to this time and still the high bidder didn't buy it....what does that tell you?

What car is that?

Ron in SC · #23 03-06-2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

recently i tried to buy something on ebay and it just kept getting bid up...
until i quit bidding.... it was like my competetor would always out bid me by
a nickle...

If I ready want to win an auction on an item like a car, I'll use a service that will enter my bid in the closing seconds of the auction automatically. That way I decide what the maximum amount I'm willing to pay and let the chips fall where they may. That's what I did with vikingautobrokers on the wagon I got from them. My bid was entered seconds before the end of the auction and I got the vehicle for less than my maximum bid.

No on has a chance to bid you up until you bid. So don't bid until the closing seconds.

300EVIL · #24 03-06-2006, 08:22 PM

There is definitely schilling on this auction. The high bidder looks legit. Weather or not he coughs up the cash, thats to be seen.

300EVIL · #25 03-06-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SC

If I ready want to win an auction on an item like a car, I'll use a service that will enter my bid in the closing seconds of the auction automatically. That way I decide what the maximum about I'm willing to pay and let the chips fall where they may. That's what I did with vikingautobrokers on the wagon I got from them. My bid was entered seconds before the end of the auction and I got the vehicle for less than my maximum bid.

No on has a chance to bid you up until you bid. So don't bid until the closing seconds.

www.esnipe.com

It's the best for sniping an auction.

Ron in SC · #26 03-06-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

www.esnipe.com

It's the best for sniping an auction.

Agreed, that's who I use.

Hit Man X · #27 03-06-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nhdoc

Look, I've bought tons of stuff on ebay. I probably have been on ebay for longer than many of you guys have been driving (I first registered with Auction Web, its first name in 1996)

7-1997 here.

boneheaddoctor · #28 03-06-2006, 09:17 PM

the key to succesful auction buying....knowing when to walk away. And not fall victim to bidding fever.....which is simular to what out of control gamblers feel...in a way its the same thing. Gambling that your next hand is going to be what you win even when you spent way too much already.

Hatterasguy · #29 03-06-2006, 09:50 PM

I have seen a lot of W123's and have yet to come across one that is so mint it makes me step back. Maybe I am a little synical from wading through all the junk out their, and their is a ton of junk.

I think $20k for a W123 is nuts, if it is truely mint, maybe mid to low teens.

For $20k I can buy a pretty mint 560SEC and coupes tend to hold their values a lot better then sedans.

The W123/W126 are still far away from going up in value. The following is way to narrow. I just can't imagin a 100 point resto 300D going across the floor at an auction 40 years from now and selling for six figures.

nhdoc · #30 03-06-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

I have seen a lot of W123's and have yet to come across one that is so mint it makes me step back. Maybe I am a little synical from wading through all the junk out their, and their is a ton of junk.

I think $20k for a W123 is nuts, if it is truely mint, maybe mid to low teens.

For $20k I can buy a pretty mint 560SEC and coupes tend to hold their values a lot better then sedans.

The W123/W126 are still far away from going up in value. The following is way to narrow. I just can't imagin a 100 point resto 300D going across the floor at an auction 40 years from now and selling for six figures.

No, the sedans will never be collector's items. For $20K you can buy a hell of a nice real low miles SL from the 80s and it will retain its value much better than any 300D (not to mention be a hell of a lot more fun to drive).