fattywagon injector line heater - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

browntrout · #1 03-15-2006, 06:46 PM

Anybody tried these? Thinking about a purchase, and would appreciate some input.

Deni · #2 03-15-2006, 07:01 PM

All the people on this forum: http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/frm/f/159605551 , who bought that injector line heater say they're happy.

Mistel · #3 03-15-2006, 07:08 PM

I assume you are going to be using WVO? I bought some, I still haven't done the conversion yet but I want to be able to switch to WVO ASAP. I think I should be able to turn on the heaters, give it 30 sec?, then switch. I think they only cost Approx $20, go for it.

browntrout · #4 03-16-2006, 07:25 AM

I was going to add these in addition to the greasecar system I already have. IMO the greasecar system alone aint cutting it. Too long of a wait for the grease to warm up to 160', if it's even getting there.

Lew · #5 03-16-2006, 08:57 AM

I plan to use these with my WVO conversion. In fact, this will be my only heat. I'll be burning a WVO/RUG blend, one-tank.

tenknots · #6 03-16-2006, 01:55 PM

Lew, I strongly suggest a plate heat exchanger also - they work without any strain on the electrical system. You could use the heaters until warm, then turn them off.

TwitchKitty · #7 03-16-2006, 03:21 PM

How about a link to the product? I don't really have time to follow the forums these days but I do like to keep up on promising products for veg oil.

While riding a snowmobile this winter I wondered if the elements for the handwarmers might be applicable as heaters for veg.

edit:

http://www.fattywagons.com/fwproducts.htm

dougk · #8 03-16-2006, 05:30 PM

The vegetable oil will not warm up faster if you go with the injector lines. The lines are very nice if you have a nice cold day, but I stand by my statement. I agree that you should get a heat exchanger. The electric warmers are nice, but they tend to be sporadic. At speeds near 60 mph, you will get a colder line because of the increased fuel flow and the air heat loss. Also, the lines will heat up to possible too hot when idling in traffic. I dont want to discourage anyone from buying them, as there has been a lot of positive results. I think that greascar has a fine system, but there needs to be insulation on all the lines and tank, and there should be a heat exchanger along with the kit. Check out www.frybrid.com. I have the mercedes kit. I know that it is quite expensive, but it is well worth it. The oil goes in the engine at the right temperature and I don't have to do anything except drive. I push a button and it purges atomatically. I would rather pay a little up front and not have to rebuild my injectors or engine. good luck.

DK

Matt SD300 · #9 03-16-2006, 11:20 PM

Dougs Quote:.....The vegetable oil will not warm up faster if you go with the injector lines.

Thats a FLAT OUT LIE!

Ok... now how about some facts about Fattys Injector line heaters.

#1. FACT:...I have them installed on MY Cummins & Mercedes 300D..NOT HEAR SAY.

#2 FACT:... The injector lines get "HOT" not warm with fattys heater

#3 FACT:...On the Benz 300SD they make a big difference. With the Fattys heater the car now starts without a miss or stumble in the morning. There is also a large reduction in smoke at start up & less smoke and when the car is warmed up. The car is always kept in the garage.

#4 FACT:... With the Cummins there's not a lot of difference at start up or while its running. Why?.. Because the Cummins starts very easy on 30* mornings & smokes very little at start up even without the heaters. There is one thing that is very different with the heaters installed....The injector lines are HOT and that's GOOD!

#5 FACT :... As you can see in the pic My Benz engine is DIRTY & needs
some LOVE

#6 FACT: I hate when someone makes a post about something THEY HAVE NEVER TRIED!

Palangi · #10 03-16-2006, 11:34 PM

Lew · #11 03-17-2006, 07:32 AM

Tenknots, I want the fatty injector line heaters for easy startup. Other than that, I don't intend to heat the blend at all. I'm in west Georgia. Winters are relatively mild, and during those colder months I'll run as much as 25% rug in the wvo. As it warms, I'll go 20% on down to 10% in the dog days. I've read that heating wvo/rug blends will cause the rug to vapor, and so want to avoid excessive heat. Do you still recommend a FPHE?

MTUpower · #12 03-17-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Dougs Quote:.....The vegetable oil will not warm up faster if you go with the injector lines.

Thats a FLAT OUT LIE!

Ok... now how about some facts about Fattys Injector line heaters.

#1. FACT:...I have them installed on MY Cummins & Mercedes 300D..NOT HEAR SAY.

#2 FACT:... The injector lines get "HOT" not warm with fattys heater

#3 FACT:...On the Benz 300SD they make a big difference. With the Fattys heater the car now starts without a miss or stumble in the morning. There is also a large reduction in smoke at start up & less smoke and when the car is warmed up. The car is always kept in the garage.

#4 FACT:... With the Cummins there's not a lot of difference at start up or while its running. Why?.. Because the Cummins starts very easy on 30* mornings & smokes very little at start up even without the heaters. There is one thing that is very different with the heaters installed....The injector lines are HOT and that's GOOD!

#5 FACT :... As you can see in the pic My Benz engine is DIRTY & needs
some LOVE

#6 FACT: I hate when someone makes a post about something THEY HAVE NEVER TRIED!

FACT: Those things are really ugly.

TwitchKitty · #13 03-17-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

Tenknots, I want the fatty injector line heaters for easy startup. Other than that, I don't intend to heat the blend at all. I'm in west Georgia. Winters are relatively mild, and during those colder months I'll run as much as 25% rug in the wvo. As it warms, I'll go 20% on down to 10% in the dog days. I've read that heating wvo/rug blends will cause the rug to vapor, and so want to avoid excessive heat. Do you still recommend a FPHE?

My guess is that the pressure in the lines will keep the vaporization from being a problem as long as the engine is running. When the engine is not running or if you heat low pressure lines you may have a problem with vapor in the lines while running a rug blend if line temps are over 125F or so.

dave300d · #14 03-17-2006, 07:50 PM

Has anyone used there line heater.It would seem like you should heat the wvo before it goes into the filter.

biopete · #15 03-17-2006, 08:07 PM

I want fattywagons too. buy 5 or more and get 20% off and $10 shipping for five or $15 for 10. I also read these threads within last few days.:

http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&mforum=forrestgump

http://www.frybrid.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3451&page=1&pp=10 Very informative regarding the "Experts' in field. Lots of drama.

Apparently potetial downsides have are possible but no evidence of them yet. Fattywagons has 40K on his and my friend has been using them for 1 year on a single tank kit and likes. I'm gonna get some.