Why we enjoy Mercedes diesels - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

DslBnz · #31 03-18-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nokileka

Only reasons I like Mercedes diesel is:
- 400+ lb/ft torque
- 300+ hp
- 30++ mpg

all that comes in one package

typical Finn-spec diesel:
http://www.ejzcars.com/liukasta.mpg

That's true. Power is not the issue, here. If you have the resources and ability, it can be done. And you can still retain that classic look without all the synthetic bumbles of later models.

If a vehicle uses electronic anything, when based on a microprocessor, it will naturally break one day. And the chance of that happening sooner or later depends on how many there are and how much is integrated within the system.

lietuviai · #32 03-18-2006, 05:44 PM

That's what I liked about the earlier diesels, their simplicity and DIY friendliness. My 123 diesel is very easy to work on. The 124 is not. Too many electronics and sensors wrapped in a poorly engineered product.
I wish I could enjoy the 123 diesel more but the price of running it now is prohibitively expensive due to the high cost of diesel fuel. It is going to be sold eventually as soon as the 124 is sold.

nokileka · #33 03-18-2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lietuviai

That's what I liked about the earlier diesels, their simplicity and DIY friendliness. My 123 diesel is very easy to work on. The 124 is not. Too many electronics and sensors wrapped in a poorly engineered product.
I wish I could enjoy the 123 diesel more but the price of running it now is prohibitively expensive due to the high cost of diesel fuel. It is going to be sold eventually as soon as the 124 is sold.

most of the electronics are useless with W124 diesels. MAF is there only to control EGR. you can disable both and engine works just fine.

ConnClark · #34 03-18-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Whats that mean? I want to start yelling it at the ricers to if its good.

directly translated it means "Make fast stupid!"

DslBnz · #35 03-18-2006, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lietuviai

That's what I liked about the earlier diesels, their simplicity and DIY friendliness. My 123 diesel is very easy to work on. The 124 is not. Too many electronics and sensors wrapped in a poorly engineered product.
I wish I could enjoy the 123 diesel more but the price of running it now is prohibitively expensive due to the high cost of diesel fuel. It is going to be sold eventually as soon as the 124 is sold.

Those stupid plastic clips for dealing with headlamp assemblies and cornering lamps that may break off is a peeve of mine.

Also, the blower motor being buried under the monowiper assembly. Plus, the blower motor fan speed regulator being sandwhiched underneath the blower motor cradle. Not fun.

Time is not kind to plastics.

Other than that junk, I'd still say the W124 is quite rugged, overall.

Austin85 · #36 03-18-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DslBnz

Those stupid plastic clips for dealing with headlamp assemblies and cornering lamps that may break off is a peeve of mine.

Also, the blower motor being buried under the monowiper assembly. Plus, the blower motor fan speed regulator being sandwhiched underneath the blower motor cradle. Not fun.

Time is not kind to plastics.

Other than that junk, I'd still say the W124 is quite rugged, overall.

Wasn't this thread ..."Why we enjoy M diesels???"
key word here ...ENJOY.

Austin85 · #37 03-18-2006, 09:33 PM

Smells like French Fires.

Big Steering Wheels!

bgkast · #38 03-18-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lietuviai

It is going to be sold eventually as soon as the 124 is sold.

How much??

Mike J · #39 03-18-2006, 10:18 PM

Mine is really getting under my skin...in a good way, like the song.

Diesel fuel price is within a dime of gasoline, and last tank clocked about 25.7 MPG in town. My 6 cylinder F-150 gives about 15 mpg. That is easy math.

I believe this car is good for a very long time to come, and at 19 years old, also a great candidate for a couple of years of daily driving and then a true restoration. No rust, no body damage

It's easy enough for a knucklehead like me to do lots of work on it.

Saw two fellers with a gorgeus 1953 Jag XK(??) today. Mutual admiration society, but they wouldn't swap cars and keys for the weekend. Go figure...
Their loss.

mbzkid · #40 03-18-2006, 11:21 PM

They are the best.

Function was put first on everything. Ergonomics are quite good. Both because they were designed to be used as taxis.

On the early models, they can be driven without electricity and vacuum.

They sound cool.

Big cars that are great in town. "Turning radius" Also handles the curbs when they are accidently hit. Hitting curb at 25 mph.....car survived.

Great feel on the highway. These cars and "cruise" with the new cars on the highway at modern speeds.

Looks good.

The turbos are monsters in the hills, the 240Ds are great around town.

Perfect size. Not too big, not too small.

The climate control, brakes, suspension, interior, electronics, and also mechanicals were very good for their time.

Handling is pretty good for a luxury car.

Fuel economy.

Mechanically simple, yet very advanced.

Last but not least, it makes us look like Ambassadors of third world countries.

MBeige · #41 03-19-2006, 01:49 AM

See related thread:

http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1231791&start=1&fid=10

First page summary:

1. While driving, you find that you really look forward to going downhill.

2. You need a more powerful radio – not to be cool, but just to hear it over the engine clatter.

3. You drive very carefully and defensively - you have learned that your car has “same-day throttle response”.

4. You begin to suspect that your entire car runs on vacuum.

5. Your car inexplicably veers towards the exit when you drive by a truck stop.

6. Your hands are always various shades of black.

7. You look in the rear view mirror frequently, to see how much black smoke you are putting out today.

8. When you buy fuel, the pump is always “around back”, away from “normal” people.

9. Someone mentions actor Allen Alda, and you think they are talking about the wrench you use to adjust fuel ratios.

10. The parts guy at Mercedes dealership has been over to your house for dinner.

11. Instead of “flooring it”, you tend to say “all ahead flank!”.

12. You are the only person in the neighborhood who think your car exhaust smells good.

13. You know where the cheapest diesel fuel station is.

14. Friends often hear you speak of Diesel Purge, MPG, smoking/fogging somebody at night, or bragging about that rare opportunity to race the local bus!

15. your grandmother thinks your car is cool.

16. If u are seen in parking lots, dumping all manner of things into the tank filler, and they arent diesel fuel......

17. you keep a few coat hangers in the trunk 'to fix
stuff with'

18. There is an electrical cord running from your hood to the house each winter.

19. Your car has a reputation among tailgaters as being the one NOT to tailgate.

20. No matter what color your car is or how often you wash it, the left corner always looks black.

21. your car 'marks its spot' everywhere you park yet 'never burns a drop of oil' !

22. you tell your back seat passengers 'don't even try to open the windows, they haven't worked in 15 years''.

23. if something is wrong it will likely 'self heal' within a short time.. say a year..!

24. People are always saying how delicious your exhaust smells if you're running WVO.

25. it makes an awfull lot of noise so you can't order drive through hamburgers.

26: Your trunk lid and bumper are covered in black soot.

27. Everytime you fuel up, the attendant comes out and says "Sir, thats the diesel pump"

28: During the winter, you find yourself borrowing other people's car, just so you dont have to wait for yours to warm up

29: You can go at least 500 miles without refueling

30: Your engineering friends refer to the throttle linkage as "something out of my last Dynamics exam" or "the reason why the Germans lost WW2"

31: Your girlfriend tells you "I cant believe you still drive that thing"

32. You can leave your engine running while filling up and pi** off the cashier.

33. You get to use cool words like: “prechamber,” “banjo bolt,” and “wastegate.”

34. The guys at the tire shop don’t know how to turn your engine off.

35. Yours is the only running car once an EMP bomb goes off. Hybrids will literally be fresh meat.

36. A battery dying out on you while you're on the road will not leave you stranded.

37. Once all the petroleum in the world runs out, you'll know you've got waste veggie oil to fuel your car. It will run forever!

38. In certain areas, you don't need a smog/emissions test.

39. You can drive cross-country on a single tank of fuel, and perhaps back.

40. Replacing the shut of mechanism may be catastrophic!

41. The only spark your car ever has is when it's freshly detailed!

42. When people ask its 0-60 time you just laugh

43. If someone asks how many miles it has you reply (in my case 228k) and they are amazed and we just shrug "she's still getting broken in"

44. When you pull up next to a 1968 200D, you see an oppurtunity to finally win a race.

45. The best races are against minivans loaded with kids going to the park...and its always a close race.

46. your honda friends think their accord with 70k is rock-solid reliable(when its in a shop for cv joints....) and call you for a ride in the car they once called an unreliable money pit.

47. you know its parts better than those of your partner.

48. When you drive another car you grind the start because you cant hear or feel the engine

49. You start speed up before LONG before hills

50. You turn the key to the on position for a few seconds before actually cranking the engine.

51. If its still running.

52. You walk in the store and come back out to your car and the engine was left running the whole time.

53. You tell people you floor it at every green light, but you don't tell them it's a slow car.

53. Everytime you get behind the wheel of your friends gasser, she asks "what are you waiting for" when you turn on the key and wait to start the car.

54. You stare at your gasoline cars tachometer and try like hell to figure out what time it is.

55. You are irrationally proud of your high mileage, and have actually thought about adjusting your odometer up to a really big number.

56. You have a hand pump in the engine!

57. Noisy cars don't bother you anymore.

58. You know if a diesel is coming near you just by the sound.

59. You can make cars' alarms go off in a covered parking lot (well, mine does if I step 1/4 on the pedal).