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Jimmy Joe 03-16-2006 01:48 PM

Can jumpstarting a diesel damage glow system?
 
Ran the battery dead leaving the lights on. AAA came, tried to jump it several times, would not start. Now I have a new battery in it, still wont pop. Only got it to run once with (aack) starting fluid, it ran fine then till cold again.
I highly suspect that jumping damaged something, as I was having no problems till this.
Any thoughts on this?

Aaron 03-16-2006 01:52 PM

Is your dash indicator lighting up in the pre-glow stage?

Jimmy Joe 03-16-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron
Is your dash indicator lighting up in the pre-glow stage?

Yes, it is.

kmaysob 03-16-2006 02:03 PM

take a volt meter to the plugs when in the glow position

Surf-n-Turf 03-16-2006 02:04 PM

I've tried jump starting my diesels before too and it never worked. I had to take a good battery out of one of my others to put in. Even tried to jump with my 2005 Silverado diesel with two batteries and still wouldn't work.

Are you sure it's not fuel related?

kmaysob 03-16-2006 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf
I've tried jump starting my diesels before too and it never worked. I had to take a good battery out of one of my others to put in. Even tried to jump with my 2005 Silverado diesel with two batteries and still wouldn't work.


ive never had a problem jumpstarting mine.

Surf-n-Turf 03-16-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmaysob
ive never had a problem jumpstarting mine.

I must just have crappy jumper cables.:mad:

timmyd 03-16-2006 02:29 PM

4 gauge
 
Cables will spin it fine. Don't buy a cheap set, they don't work well, and don't last either.
Get them at an auto parts place, not china-mart.

Pete Burton 03-16-2006 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmaysob
ive never had a problem jumpstarting mine.

me neither. And no problems starting at all since I replaced those pesky worn pistons:o

ForcedInduction 03-16-2006 02:45 PM

Don't just put them on and crank. Let the booster vehicle charge your battery for 5 minutes.

jshadows 03-16-2006 02:46 PM

Make sure you clean those battery terminals too. We jump started an F350 TD but took a lot of scrubbing, and a can of good old fashioned Coca-Cola probably wouldn't have hurt either.

Tom Valdriz 03-16-2006 03:06 PM

Hit the pre-glo, let donor battery charge weak awhile and go!

I've done it.

Tom

DieselCJ 03-16-2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
Don't just put them on and crank. Let the booster vehicle charge your battery for 5 minutes.

X2... easier on the alt too. Whenever possible I use the wheeled charger over a "jump" to get a vehicle started.

:cool:

dieseldiehard 03-16-2006 03:19 PM

Did you watch the AAA fellow who did the connection? The reason I ask is because there is a story about AAA, they sent a dufas that connected the leads backwards to a late model MB. It was a gasser but the story is applicable so read on.
A shower of sparks flew when he touched the terminals, its an old trick to check for accidental mis connections, if you see sparks you know the polarity is wrong or something is shorted in the electrical system and in such case you check polarity or don't apply the jumper cables!
When this was done it fried a number of things in that car, including the electronics modules that run the ignition, the buzzers, etc and even the clock was kaput. Obviously the car had to be towed because it was DOA.

The shop ran up to something over $1500 to fix it and the guy contacted AAA to file a claim against them (his own insurance company). He argued that the accidental jump start was due to their employee, the driver of their tow truck and that they would have to pay. They balked and finally agreed to repair everything except the clock. I was contacted to comment on the issue of the clock. AAA said that most auto clocks fail after 10 years or so (the car was about 15 years old) and since they wear out (in their experience) auto clocks weren't covered by their insurance.
To fully understand their mindset you have to realize that AAA is basically run by greedy lawyers that work hard finding ways to weazel their customers out of coverage and thereby make million$ of profits. Just own AAA and have an accident with another AA driver and you'll see. No I never had AAA insurance, this has been discussed elsewhere to great lengths.

Anyhow after a dozen car owners, shop owners and so on all provided written testimonials that Mercedes clocks generally keep excellent time even 10 to 20 years after they were built and shipped in a car, AAA agreed to fix the man's poor clock. This guy wouldn't drop the isseu and refused to accept their policy. :P

IF AAA accidentally mis-connected the battery cables while trying to jump start your vehicle it is possible they fried the GP relay box, the cruise control, radio etc.
Check everything carefully! and in case you need it, I hope you have a receipt for services rendered?

DieselCJ 03-16-2006 03:25 PM

You can get an idea if some plugs are working by seeing how much your lights dim when you turn the ignition key to "glow plug" position.

:cool:


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