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Old 03-28-2006, 08:44 PM
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Compact euro diesels competitive with US Prius

An article I came across

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/25/five-diesels-from-europe-that-will-out-eco-a-prius/
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:52 PM
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Why do you taunt me so?

Someday maybe we too will benefit from these.

I will take the Audi..., if only.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:23 PM
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Prius is one of the most disgusting appearing vehicles I have ever seen. You'd think there could be some design flair going into the body at least.

Hell, the Hybrid Honda Civic looks okay.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:42 PM
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Were those diesel mileage ratings in US gallons or Imperial gallons? Regardless, they are all good.

I once had a 91 Honda CRX that nearly always got between 45 and 50 mpg (sometimes over 55 mpg). The 1984 Honda CRX was rated at 67 mpg highway.......that was 23 years ago. With today's technology, if they wanted to, they could build a car that would provide excellent gas mileage without all that complex hybrid mess.

There are several small cars that are recent on the market that get crappy mileage. (IMHO) I was disappointed when I found out that the new Toyota Yaris is only rated at 40 mpg highway. I think the Chevrolet Aveo is even less. These cars are small!!!! 40 mpg isn't bad, but it should be a lot better for a car of that size. I think it's all in the plan to keep this country dependent on foreign oil.


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Old 03-28-2006, 11:05 PM
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Keith otr, I've had a CRX HF, as noted below, tell me about the lack of true advancment.

Chevy Aveo - Auto - 5speed
City (mpg) 24 - 26
Highway (mpg) 34 - 35

What junk, I have had it in the back of my head if I ever have the misfortune of filling up next to one, I'll ask what they get, then say mine does that too as they fold themselves into their death trap. (That '87 CRX HF I had would have been instant death though).
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:26 PM
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Ill gladly take a Renault Clio Sport 68 with the common rail diesel over any hybrid avail here in the U.S.- it looks great, its diesel, and can run on WVO!
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:01 AM
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Ill gladly take a Renault Clio Sport 68 with the common rail diesel over any hybrid avail here in the U.S.- it looks great, its diesel, and can run on WVO!
well i dont think that Common rail diesels can run WVO, it is too thick. but older injection diesels can.

the Cheverolet Aveo is made by Daewoo (korean company). the car sucks...
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:49 AM
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That Audi A2 1.2 Cdi looks cool!! 87mpg!!! WOW. I could go for that....and 65 in the city, I could go to school and back ten times on a single gallon! Right now I use about 1/4 of a gallon each way......at 21mpg in the city......so about $1.35 a day, that car would cost me $0.20 a day, if that. Oh well....I would never give up my SD. Ever.
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Imagine what a diesel - electric would be capable of .......
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As an experiment, take an empty aluminum drink can and set it on the pavement. Now stomp it with your foot. You have just simulated a crash in one of these cars.

How do you like your fuel economy now?

Give me a W126 any day.

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As an experiment, take an empty aluminum drink can and set it on the pavement. Now stomp it with your foot. You have just simulated a crash in one of these cars.

How do you like your fuel economy now?

LOL i love all the analogies that this forum comes up with.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:34 AM
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Love my SD too, but in fact some of these cars do quite well in crash tests.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/crashtest/car/99/

and crumpling like a tin can is part of the 'crash' safety design.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:42 AM
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Years ago when I was working in Italy a neighbor of mine had a mid 80's Fiat Uno diesel, 750cc diesel 5 speed stick, did the math and remember it getting 75 mpg. no it wasn't fast, fancy or all that comfortible...but it got impressive milage.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:58 AM
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well i dont think that Common rail diesels can run WVO, it is too thick. but older injection diesels can.
silly man any diesel can run wvo you just need ALOT OF HEAT!

This CDI is common rail its running wvo. http://greasecar.com/profile.cfm?profileID=81
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:15 AM
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i saw several of these models on a recent trip to amsterdam.the peugot and citreon looked very good and run very quiet.its true these cars are smaller but that will be the coming trend in north america.we are just starting to get a taste of what europeans have taken for granted for a long time.permanent high fuel costs
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