Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum > Technical Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-29-2006, 08:07 PM
snp8990's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Holland,PA
Posts: 514
1995 E300 Special Edition

Hi,
I am planning on buying a 1995 E300 Special Edition (Real Spec.Ed).The car 118,000 miles,but is in outstanding condition.It has leather,not MB-Tex.The one thing that caught my eye was the color.It is Sapphire Black Metallic over Black leather.The color is close to Black Opal.My brother owned a 1995 E300 Special Edition for about 6 months,so we did not really experience any major problems.I prefer the W124 over the W210 and if this car is anything like my 1999 E300 TD was,its great.I would appreciate it if you guys can just give me all information (good and bad)on the car.Thanks,
-Nilesh
__________________
1998 S500
2006 E320 CDI
1963 220S
1994 S500
1995 S500
2005 BMW 545i sport
2007 GL320 CDI
2007 ML320 CDI
1991 Toyota Previa White over Blue
2000 Lexus RX300 White over Beige
2008 Audi Q7 Black Opal over Grey
1993 Toyota T-100 Silver over Grey
2002 Chevy 2500 Express White over Grey
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-30-2006, 01:38 AM
thelazzarusman's Avatar
American Expatriate
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, CA
Posts: 59
Hands down, buy it.

After a thorough inspection, of course. You'll love the car. I bought mine at the same mileage and had it for two years before selling it to upgrade to a larger vehicle. While I owned the 95 e300d, I had to replace the plastic fuel lines at the injection pump the tend to brown and brittle with age. I also replaced the engine mounts, transmission mounts, and water pump. Cosmetically, I chose to redye the leather seats because mine had begun to wear, and I replaced the headliner because it was sagging. The dying and headliner were DIY jobs, as well as the plastic fuel lines.

The car got incredible mileage, exhibited suprising agility and sportiness for a non-turbo, and had an easily-disabled EGR valve... Do watch out for evaporator issues with the A/C. My 95 had its entire HVAC system overhauled five years after it was sold as new, so I was lucky. I've also heard people complaining about "tired" front suspension after 100,000 miles in climates that require rock salt on the roads in winter. Remember you can write MB customer service with a copy of your registration (after you buy it) and request a service history of the vehicle while it was under warranty.

Personally, I should have kept the e300d. It was the last year of the 124 chassis and perhaps the most refined--classic lines with modern appointments. Too bad for my pesky Mom complaining about its small back seat! Live and learn.

Best,

DL
__________________
1995 E300 146,000 miles "Celia"--sold
1993 300sd 131,000 miles "Konstanze"--with Mom in Tampa
1987 300sdl 225,000 miles "Frau Grau"
1980 300sd 164,000 miles "Old Yeller"--sold
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-30-2006, 08:47 AM
uberwgn's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 979
I had a 1995 diesel. It was exceptionally smooth and quiet. However, sans turbo, I found the lack of power on the highway to be a real shortcoming unless the car was revved to 5k rpm.

I kept the car for 25k miles and sold it for a few thousand less than what I paid.
__________________
1998 W210 diesel (wiped out by a texter)
Baum spring compressor "for rent"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-30-2006, 09:01 AM
POS's Avatar
POS POS is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,504
I've had mine now for about six months - great commuter. Besides fluid changes and a new door latch, I've put almost no money into it.

Mine was like yours - 110k miles when I got it, one owner, excellent history, looked almost new. My seats are the MB Tex (which I prefer) and after putting 14k miles on it in the past six months, I can tell you that I absolutely love it.
__________________
- Brian


1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-30-2006, 12:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 113
I have a 95 E300D, bought it new in 95 and have logged almost 218,000. Best car I ever bought... period.

The diesel is quiet (inside), handles well, rides very good. Power is adequate... keeps up with most things on the road. Mileage is very good (28 worst (peak summer AC), 32-33 is average rest of year). Big tank so I go 600-700 miles between fill-ups.

I've had some expenses with the car - rear shocks, power steering pump, motor mounts, etc. Nothing too serious considering the mileage...
__________________
1995 E300D - 225,000 miles - White Exterior, Grey Interior - original owner
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-30-2006, 06:11 PM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,267
They are great cars. Really the only downside if you consider it a downside because I don't is they lack a turbo. So power is a bit down, ie if you are coming from a 98-99 E300D you will notice.

Other then that its a great engine in a great car, how can you go wrong?
__________________
2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ
Mercedes??

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-30-2006, 08:41 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,861
In theory doesn't the engine last longer w/out a turbo too? Less heat/stress on the engine? Seems like the 240d's and 300d N/A's all go longer between rebuilds than the turbo engines.....then again the 603SDL's seem to go 400k often without one.... so who knows.

I'd love to have a 1995 E300, that'd be awesome. However, lack of $$.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'89 420SEL 168k - mine (OC-170,000)
'93 190D 2.2 - 223k - mine (OC-222,700)
'01 E320 Wagon - 149k - mine (OC-154,000)
'05 C240 4matic Wagon - 153k - wifes (OC-154,500)
'01 E320 - 162k - Dad's (OC-163,500)
'07 E350 Wagon - 116k - dad's (OC-121,500)
'02 E320 - 193k - Brother's (OC - 192,000)
'09 E350 4matic Sedan - 84k - Brothers (OC-85,500)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:13 AM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by pawoSD
In theory doesn't the engine last longer w/out a turbo too? Less heat/stress on the engine? Seems like the 240d's and 300d N/A's all go longer between rebuilds than the turbo engines.....then again the 603SDL's seem to go 400k often without one.... so who knows.

I'd love to have a 1995 E300, that'd be awesome. However, lack of $$.
In theory yes, in practice no. In regard to MB's they overbuilt the turbo engines so much the lifespan is the same if not greater then the NA engines. Now if you want to make a case that turbo charged engines don't last as long, say with CAT 3208's well you could, but thats a different animal.

The 606 is probably the most durable MB diesel around. I have personaly seen two examples with north of 300k on them that still burned zero oil, and had zero blow by. The 606 may actualy be the engine that proves those 500k mile claims true...
__________________
2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ
Mercedes??

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-01-2006, 12:19 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: California
Posts: 2,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
The 606 may actualy be the engine that proves those 500k mile claims true...
Yeah, the 617 is undoubtedly an extremely durable motor, but the bodies that these motors reside in usually rust away before the cars hit 500K miles. The later cars (with the exception of the 210) have better rustproofing.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-02-2006, 12:14 PM
RunningTooHot's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Here
Posts: 822
Thumbs up Definitely the “holy grail” MB diesel.

An emphatic thumbs up for this car; I second everything positive already mentioned above.

Speaking of longevity, mine is going to turn over 364,000 miles this week. It’s the original engine, with a new headgasket at about 330,000. Burns ZERO oil. Mileage is less than what others report (~27-28) but I flog it unrelentingly. Mileage could be related to the fact that the injectors are also original. (!)
__________________
Current rolling stock:
1992 500E 217,000+
1995 E300D 412,000+
1998 E300D 155,000+
2001 E320 227,000+
One big Japanese 4wd box on wheels. (How the hell did that happen???)

Prior MBZ’s:
1952 220 Cab A
1966 300SE
1971 280SE
1973 350SLC (euro)
1980 450SLC
1980 450SLC (#2)
1978 450SLC 5.0
1984 300D ~243,000 & fondly remembered
1993 500E - sorely missed.
1975 VW Scirocco w/ stroked, slightly de-tuned Super-Vee engine - Sold after 30+ years of ownership
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-02-2006, 12:23 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 377
I now have 168K on my car. Bought it with 86K on the clock. As with any used car, check the wear items like brakes, shocks, tires, etc. If the car needs those items right away you could end up spending more than you anticipated. Condition of the suspension is important as well, control arm bushings and rear suspension links wear out over time. You might try to search the board with "E300d" to find out more about these cars.

I consistently get 32mpg and 37mph on long highway trips. Good mileage + big fuel tank provides 600-700 mile range per tank which is great. Although I wish the car had a bit more power for acceleration, it runs well at 70-80mph and has good power at that speed/rpms.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-02-2006, 02:03 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 894
209K on mine now

Bought with 140K two years ago. Just rebuilt front end, and put new shocks/struts all around. Plastic fuel lines are the biggest nag with this car, but fortunately relatively easy to replace.

Drive on....

Rgds,
Chris W.
'95 E300D
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-03-2006, 10:07 PM
lorenztl's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowa, USA
Posts: 116
Thumbs up Great fuel mileage, range, reliability and speed!!

Owned our 1995 E300D nearly two years and impressed with it's reliability and mileage. Our trip out from Iowa to Colorado, Utah and Arizona with 3 adults net us 30.25mpg. Much of the trips speed was 75-80mph with extensive miles at 110-120mph which it maintains with surprising ease. E300D has 187,000mi.
Around town average is 27-29 mpg. Being thoughtful about how I drive I can easily maintain 30mpg. Trips out of town at 65-70mph the E300D returns 35-36mpg!! Seats are very comfortable.
The climate controls on this car are very poorly designed with electronics interpreting a comfortable temperature and having to manually manipulate it regularly to make it comfortable. Miserable fan has only 2 controllable speeds, Hi & Lo, Auto determines speed for you. When there is wider temperature variation fan will run full blast and it is very annoying so I end up setting it to low fan speed to keep my eyes from drying out the the noise level down. Because of this I wouldn't own this car just because of the climate control if it wasn't a diesel....sad.
I've replaced the blower fan under the uni-wiper behind the engine firewall. Two on either side of the car make this job much quicker and easier. While working on this we removed the cover from the wiper pivot and regreased it as the original grease was drying and become "cakey"
It starts amazingly well in cold weather with no need to plug it in. One nite when I did not have appointment and was at -16 below zero left it outside without plugging it in to see how it would start in morning. My sons gas Jetta was also outside and it would not start without a jump. I turned key standing outside E300D with door open and after pre-glow I turned the key and it started right up to smooth idle!!! I was really surprised and impressed and so was my son. I have never worried about cold weather since!
An acquantance with the same car rebuilt his motor at 395,000 miles because of lowered compression. -Tom
__________________
'96 C220 138,000mi, '95 E300D 239,000 mi., '87 300TD 214,000mi '88 6.2 Turbo Diesel Chevy Conversion Van 253,000 mi.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2011 Pelican Parts - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page