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Old 05-02-2006, 03:41 AM
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HID kit

Is it possible to install a HID kit into my 87 300D?

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Old 05-02-2006, 09:41 AM
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Why can't you go to AutoZone and buy HID bulbs?
Why would you need a conversion?

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:53 PM
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Should be OK IF...

The kit is specifically for 9004, 9007 etc. (whichever your car has) The price is what caught my eye. They seem LOW if new, all hardware, transformer, etc. are included BUT then again, Korea is now what Japan was in the 60's and 70's - great a mass producing copies of nearly anything.

If you do it, PLEASE let everyone know how it went. I'm thinking of doing the same thing.
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Why can't you go to AutoZone and buy HID bulbs?
Why would you need a conversion?

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HID lamps don't work that way, Danny. You need a ballast and a high-voltage igniter.

Unless you're talking about fake HIDs. Why bother with those?
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Why can't you go to AutoZone and buy HID bulbs?
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You mean those TINTED blue light bulbs?? They arent HID's those are regular halogen light bulbs with a blue tint that produce less light then regular halogen.

The kit is what is used in new Mercedes,bmw's,lexus,etc. They are much brighter and use less energy then halogens.
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:42 PM
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BUT then again, Korea is now what Japan was in the 60's and 70's - great a mass producing copies of nearly anything.
True, but say the bulbs do go out, you can get replacement ones from philips cheap from many online sources.
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Hmmm,

They did not have HID lights in 1987 in fact they did not have them in 1995 on the last of the 124's. To be quite honest I think that HID lights on an older car looks kind of silly. You don't get any of the advantages from the HID system such as the automatic leveling and the extra optics that the HID lamps have all your getting is the blue light which reduces your visibibility in the rain. If you want brighter headlights save your money and buy some Sylvania Silverstars. HID retrofits are not up to the same level of quality that one finds in an OEM install.
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Old 05-03-2006, 01:36 AM
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i hate those stupid lights. i would love to get out of the car and smash them everytime one shines in my mirrors
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I can't say how this would go. The focal point of the parabolic reflector in the assembly you have now was designed to be exactly on the filament of the bulb meant to go there. Even if it's a little off, the brightness might not be that good. Given the really high price and PITA installation, I'd try better bulbs first, like Silverstars, which really ARE better in my experience. I had them in my Euro retrofitted round headlights and I have them in my Euros. The cheap bulbs are "blue", that's all. I've read that GE bulbs are almost as good as Silverstars and cheaper (even available at Mart Le Wall).
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I love when a car with those lights is behind you and they hit a bump. It seems like they are flashing you for no reason
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:26 AM
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Euro lights with H4/9004 Silverstars seem to be the best combination.

Amber fog lights greatly help in the rain/smow but amber H3's can be hard to find.
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Old 05-03-2006, 03:05 AM
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i hate those stupid lights. i would love to get out of the car and smash them everytime one shines in my mirrors

Same here....especially when they are on a truck or SUV, you CAN'T SEE with all those in your mirrors!! Its verrry annoying.
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OK first of all, im not getting blue tinted bulbs. these are NOT BLUE lights they are diamond white so the visibility shouldnt be a problem in the rain.

Ive tried osram silverstars on my 300SD and have them on my dads touareg well i wasnt impressed with them. No much brighter then the philips vision plus that are on my moms passat. And the philips are cheaper but id like to see farther down the road and around my area there are hardly any street lights so the stock bulbs or even osram's/philips hardly cut it.

HID's can be blinding but in projector style headlights like on the passat for example. But ive seen them on my friends 98 C320 he had the diamond white and they look great!
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Old 05-03-2006, 03:32 AM
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www.danielsternlighting.com has shed some light.

If your 124 has metal reflectors, it may work. But the dispersion might not be correct considering the reflectors are made to accomodate a bulb while the HID is not a bulb.
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I drive an S class with automatic dimming mirrors so the ill adjusted retrofitted xenon headlights have never really bothered me...... I would not go as far as wanting to smash headlamps but I do find the "style" reasoning to put blinding headlights on your car to be quite amusing. But the aftermarket parts guys do swift business on Ebay selling retrofit kits for the Fast and the Furious set for their Honda Civics. Taste is one of those subjective things as there is obviously a big market for this stuff.

The big thing with the xenon lamps is the special optics and the auto leveling system that allows the light to be aimed higher on the road..... My 300SD has a prehistoric version of this and its wonderful for driving down back roads because I can just tilt the headlights slightly higher without blinding other drivers or resorting to high beams...... The newer cars do this automatically and are fast enough to compensate for bumps in the road. If you have been behind the wheel of a xenon equipped vehicle you will also notice a sharp flat line of the beam pattern in the car rather than the two peaks a standard reflector puts out. This "low profile" beam pattern also helps to keep the bright light out of the eyes of oncoming motorists.

I would go for the Euro lamps as well. They do put out an amazing amount of light especially with fog lamps. Retrofitting xenons into a car thats not designed for them is a hazzard to other drivers and may be illegal in your state. In many states the police have started cracking down on the high school rice rocket crowd with their headlights. You can see a "retrofitted" car a mile away because the glare and beam pattern of their headlights and the cops are becoming increasingly aware of this for the revenue generation of writing equipment violation citations.

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