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Old 05-15-2006, 10:11 AM
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crankshaft dampener and pully gone

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goodyear just called. they say they need to pull the timing cover. 500 bucks to remove the timing cover.

the dampener has a piece that mounts inside the tc and they don't see it. could the dampener and the pully have just fallen off? we heard a rubbing/grinding noise for several miles before the dash warning lights came on. i was on one side of an overpass and drove to the other side yto pull over. couple hundred feet. there was no loud engine noise.

do i just get a dampener and hope the crank is not broken?
help.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:28 AM
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is this a record?


goodyear just called. they say they need to pull the timing cover. 500 bucks to remove the timing cover.

the dampener has a piece that mounts inside the tc and they don't see it. could the dampener and the pully have just fallen off? we heard a rubbing/grinding noise for several miles before the dash warning lights came on. i was on one side of an overpass and drove to the other side yto pull over. couple hundred feet. there was no loud engine noise.

do i just get a dampener and hope the crank is not broken?
help.
Goodyear??? I'd get it out of there and into an independent MB shop that knows these engines ASAP.
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Old 05-15-2006, 12:17 PM
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well when it was just the belt hangin' down and they replaced it last that was the first port of call.

now the indy here in town has a surplus of cars on the lot that need fixin' so i am not sure i want to take it there. plus he is the only mb indy in town and they have a bad attitude.

i so dislike this.
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240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car

23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs
21" khs tandem
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Old 05-15-2006, 12:54 PM
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goodyear just called. they say they need to pull the timing cover. 500 bucks to remove the timing cover.
Seeing as that engine does not have a timing cover, I'd get it out of there ASAP
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:05 PM
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Seeing as that engine does not have a timing cover, I'd get it out of there ASAP
Yeah, I can just imagine getting out the sawzall, or oxyacet, and the bronze brazing rod to put it back on...
um, tempting but no.
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:27 PM
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Seeing as that engine does not have a timing cover, I'd get it out of there ASAP
Goodyear, now there's some eminently qualified Mercedes-Benz techs. Ask about getting a four wheel alignment while you're there.
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:37 PM
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A v-belt is pretty easy to change out for yourself, especially on a 240D. What did your AC compressor sieze up or something? If the damper and pulley are gone, it's time to inspect the nose of the crank. Then you have the ordeal of getting this whole thing fixed properly. I suspect they tightened the belt too much, caused the pulley bolts to shear off one by one, bye-bye pulley and bye-bye damper. Such is the pitfall of having people at chain-type automotive places mess with your car. You're going to really hate me for writing this but you should have changed the belt yourself. Our MBs are engineered in ways that are completely out of the range of comprehension of the inept technicians that tend to work at the chain shops.
You know what you have to do, you have to take it to somebody who knows what they're doing, otherwise we may see this car for sale very soon. In the 'Parts' section, no less.
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If the damper and pulley are gone, it's time to inspect the nose of the crank.
Why?
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yeah, why?

if the cars are built beyond the comprehension of ordinary service techs its prolly beyond mine also. these cars prolly will be for sale soon as i cannot afford them any longer. all sales will most likely include a full tank of biodiesel.
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240d-144+ Manilla Yellow w/ palmino interior-greasecar kit-Blondie-the college kids car

23" gt 21 speed still on original tires-still got the nubs
21" khs tandem

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Why?

Harmonic Balancer Woes...

RE: the balancer- 'its held in place with 2 dowel pins and a large bolt into the crank snout'


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Old 05-15-2006, 04:05 PM
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Ouch!
I'm not bagging on anybody here, it's the internet format that makes my posts seem like I'm the *********, but really. Taking your 240D to Goodyear(or whatever chain-place you took it to) in for a belt change? What would Old Navy think about that? If you had called me I would have done it for you. For free, rather than see damage come to the car. ON's 240 was like, really nice(hopefully that's the specific 240 in your collection that we're talking about here). and mores to you 83-240D, I do hope you get it worked out.
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Kinda reminds me of the post where the guy drives his car home with smoke coming out from under the hood Turned out to be steam

83-240D...These guys are right bout those "jiffy-screw" places
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:34 PM
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i agree maybe delano was a little tough on the newbie. or so.

and i agree that you need to check out the nose of the crank.

on the other hand most ordinary parts changers SHOULD be able to change a belt, but i agree they could screw it up too.

but i cant imagine that tightening the belts too tight would have broken anything. it would be more likely that they were turning the motor over with the big nut and broke it off.

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Old 05-15-2006, 09:23 PM
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If both the pulley and the balancer are gone, lying on the road somewhere what are the chances of getting a properly balanced part? Aren't they balanced to the crank in some manner?
For the whole rig to come off it does stand to reason that the crank bolt failed somehow. And here I go again I'm sorry didn't mean to offend.
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