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crhenkel 06-14-2007 11:28 AM

fan fell off
 
I'll get a photo today. I looked and the assembly is all in one piece sitting in there between the radiator and water pump. The fan, clutch, and the pulley are all still in one unit. AND there is no water leaking from the car despite the fan coming off the water pump. Weird

uberwgn 06-14-2007 05:20 PM

Chris, any damage to the radiator??

300TDT 1987 06-14-2007 05:51 PM

Interesting enough I just took of the fan clutch and added viscous fluid yesterday. It sounds as if the bolt came loose and then fell out, it is amazing if there is no damage, definetly check the rad. it must have taken a hit.

I didn't put locktight on that bolt, all I had was the red stuff which I think may to strong for that, this story has definetly made me think about getting the blue stuff and locking that bolt in there.

Good Luck.

crhenkel 06-16-2007 01:21 PM

I got lucky
 
Ok, so you were all thinking like I was, radiator must have taken a hit, but I have checked several times now, thinking I just missed the spot, and nope, it is alright. WOW! What luck and a relief!
I finally got the think figured out also. The 190E 2.6 L engine does not mount the fan and clutch on the water pump as I assumed. It is mounted on what is called the fan clutch bearing bracket or fan cluch flange bracket. Not the water pump you say, well, I was all ready to order it when I checked the radiator again in teh daylight and say the light as it were. Not the water pump, just a bearing bracket and a shaft with a flange for the clutch. SO, I looked again for the bracket, gave up and ordered the rebuilt one from MB dealer for $135. Then about 6 hours later, after it was too late, I found one online for $110. Oh well, better than the MB new part at $240 I guess. AND, no water to leak out or refill when I do the job next week, the bracket replacement does not involve coolant or oil, or gaskets, etc. Just install and repalice fan belt. Which I might add was also not damaged in the bearing failure, very very weird. That fan had to be spinning like crazy when it let go.

ANY ONE know how to determine if the fan cluch is good or bad?

crhenkel 06-16-2007 01:29 PM

Fan photo
 
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It is hard to take a picture of this area of the engine, but it should work for explaination purposes.

HDenDiesel 08-24-2007 08:16 AM

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Yesterday, following this good article, I changed the fan clutch on my 1998 W210 E300. Also, I took a few pics of the inside. Here is how it's made:

coopertechcebu 08-27-2007 06:22 AM

bolt left inside the radiator
 
I left some bolt inside my radiator,I overhauled my radiator by cleaning each tube,I removed the plastic cover on top,when I am to put it back again I used a bolt to prevent the middle of the cover to bent closer to each other,when I finally put selicone and tested for leak the bolt wont come of now after running the car for months I can't find the bolt,is there any danger to the engine?will the bolt go to the pump and distroy it?my car is a 1979 240d please advice me what to do.

uberwgn 08-31-2007 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopertechcebu (Post 1603142)
I left some bolt inside my radiator,I overhauled my radiator by cleaning each tube,I removed the plastic cover on top,when I am to put it back again I used a bolt to prevent the middle of the cover to bent closer to each other,when I finally put selicone and tested for leak the bolt wont come of now after running the car for months I can't find the bolt,is there any danger to the engine?will the bolt go to the pump and distroy it?my car is a 1979 240d please advice me what to do.

How large was the bolt :confused:

wiztecy 05-12-2008 07:51 PM

Is the center 8mm fan clutch bolt reverse threaded?
 
Can someone comment if the center 8mm fan clutch bolt is reverse threaded?
I used the method as described below, locked an allen key into the pulley hold of the water pump, then rotated the 8mm fan clutch bolt using an allen wrench with an extension on the end for torque and no luck. Actually a small piece of the water pump which the allen key was locking against broke off... Water pump is still intact, however I'll be replacing that as well since I'm in it this far with the fan clutch job.

Thanks!

wiztecy 05-14-2008 12:17 AM

In an earlier post a member answered the question if the fan clutch bolt is reverse threaded... It is not reverse threaded but regular threaded. I successfully removed the bolt by turning the bolt counter clockwise.

centralflori 07-15-2008 12:11 PM

Thank You!!!!!!!!!
 
Excellent write up and great pictures! Thank you very much.

Abadjay 10-02-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter (Post 1211466)
My gosh, this is beautiful. :D
Really went wild with the camera. :D
Perfect for the DIY wiki page. :)




Thank you.


But will this work on an OM603?

notfarnow 11-23-2008 09:19 PM

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I replaced the serpentine belt & tensioner on my '99 e300d today, thanks to this very helpful thread.

I thought I'd post the pics of the tools I made, just in case it helps someone else later on:

For the 8mm Allen bolt for the cooling fan, I cut a bit off the end of an 8mm Allen key, and welded it to the flattened end of a 2 foot length of steel tube:

http://www.jakesgarage.ca/uploaded_i...fan-700158.JPG

To keep the water pump pulley from turning, hacked up some square tube, a couple minutes with the welder:
http://www.jakesgarage.ca/uploaded_i...er1-742404.JPG

In use:
http://www.jakesgarage.ca/uploaded_i...ver-742362.JPG

Neither one are pretty, but they only took 15 minutes to whip up and made the job a BREEZE.

Oldwolf 07-27-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiztecy (Post 1854327)
In an earlier post a member answered the question if the fan clutch bolt is reverse threaded... It is not reverse threaded but regular threaded. I successfully removed the bolt by turning the bolt counter clockwise.

This is exactly the bit of information that I was looking for. I will be replacing my clutch as soon as it arrives. Thanks.

creationsnglass 10-28-2009 09:49 PM

Just replaced my Serpentine belt and the tension shock. I gotta say Thanks a Bunch you guys. I think I could have done it cold , but I would not have done it so quick and with so little pain and cussing.
Thank you and Thank you.:thumbup:


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