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e300d glow plug problem
hi guys,have a e300d 1995.have a problem with the glow plug indicator light on dash.(does not light up on pre glow) and comes on after about 2 mins after the car is running and stays on for approx 2 mins car starts no problem even when cold. anybody else had this one?any advice would be appreciated.thanks
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Start by taking an ohm meter to the glow plug harness terminal at the relay box. Good plugs should read 0.6 ohms cold.
Len |
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merc e300d
thanks len will test plugs but would this cause the glow plug lamp to go weird?
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glow plug prob.
95 e300d 169,000.
I had the same trouble at about 120,000. Started fine. Glow plug light stayed on a while after it started. Ended up needing a new wiring harness. Old one was cracked and in pretty bad shape. |
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Check all electrical connections for looseness and corrosion. Also check your relay. Electrical gremlins, especially the intermittant ones are worst things to trace.
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Took in to a dealer and had all my glow plugs replaced. No more glow plug problem. |
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e300d glowplugs
thank's for that guys.will test the plugs.don't fancy taking the head off though.
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Similar problem--lamp illuminates while driving
1995 300D, 165K. Runs great. Starts fine. Yesterday, glow plug lamp illuminated after car running for 20 minutes, then went out after restart. Turning on cold, no lamp. Turning off, then on again, glow lamp lights. Typcially, this would indicate one glow plug failed. (Off/on sequence twice with no lamp = more than one failed plug.) But...all plugs replaced in July, engine wiring harness replaced in August.
Where exactly is the relay and which terminal do I test. I actually think I've found the relay (in black box, 3"x3"x1", on driver's side front wheel well) and it does click when you turn the key. Seems OK. So now it's down to testing the plugs via the harness leads. Is there a a picture or guide anyplace? Thanks- Dave |
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Black box over driveside
Black box over driveside well is the directional. I'm looking for the relay for glow plugs too.
1984 300D Last edited by Crappy Gas Pipe; 10-24-2006 at 10:46 PM. Reason: more info |
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The direction light relay is in the center console, inside the car. |
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Once you find the relay box which ought to be on the driver's side fender, unplug the glow plug harness. Stick one lead from the ohm meter into one of the terminals. Ground the other. Read the results. Repeat. If you've got really good eyes, you can see the number for each glow plug on the harness connection and tell which plug is bad.
Len |
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Everything looks OK...
...which is to be expected since I had an ohmmeter in one hand. Everyone was on their best behavior, including the glow plug lamp which is again working perfectly.
Cold (air temp 65 deg F) the number 5 plug looked a bit higher than the others (1 ohm+/- versus 0.5+/- for 1-4; my ohmmeter is an older, inexpensive analog type... After the car came up to operating temp (engine +/- 80 deg C) I rechecked. All 5 plugs at 0.5 +/- ohms. I cleaned all contacts (looked spotless and tight to begin with...) and lamp is fine. We'll see... FYI, from the top left corner of the connector (leads exiting at base) the connectors increment row-by-row (think F1 starting grid) -- row 1 is #1, #2, left to right, row 2 is #3, #4, and row 3 is #5, #6 (#6 is empty on my car...) Thanks for the tips--made this check a breeze.
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Dave Evans Austin, TX 1995 E300D B50 Biodiesel = 56 MPG |
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be careful
what ever you do don'y try this yourself. I had two break off on me and i have the same car. first time I tried to drill it out, what a mistake. I drilled inot the head instead I got a engine out of a wreck it was cheaper than a new head. the second time 20,000 miles later one broke again and the head had to come off to drill it out. the head is almost impossible to get for this motor. let a mechanic do it. I would run a diesel purge first to loosen the carbon buildup on the end of the plug. just be careful
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