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RichC 08-07-2006 01:08 AM

.. ? . What do you think this 1983 200 D is worth . ? ..
 
Hello all :)

I am thinking of purchasing this 1983 Mercedes 200 D.

I wanted your opinions of it's value.

Picture below.


It has 168,000 miles.
Manual transmission.
Everything works.
Includes lots of maintainence records.
Has dent in driver side rear door.

Thank You
RichC

http://bugzda.jabberwock.us/Mercedes%20Driver.JPG

JimmyL 08-07-2006 01:20 AM

240?
 
Wow, hubbies AND white!! and Standard. $2k to $3K is fair. Cheaper is better....:D

Boardmonger 08-07-2006 01:27 AM

A 200 diesel was never offered in north america so some parts may be hard to come by. Besides that if it has no rust and runs well (slow I'm sure) I dunno 2-3k. You are going to need a euro front bumper for that. Looks pretty nice though, get that dent pulled out if you buy it.

iNeon 08-07-2006 02:25 AM

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Hmmm... where have I seen that car before?

Oh yeah-- The driveway! heh heh

No price is too high for a classic white w123-- they NEVER go out of style! ;)

bgkast 08-07-2006 02:34 AM

And people think the 240s are slow :eek:

kerry 08-07-2006 10:04 AM

I'm thinking it's a typo. I don't think MB sold a 200d in 1983. It's a 300d, although the extra 100 is not going to change the price.

RichC 08-07-2006 11:04 PM

I had no idea it was your car ineon
 
:eek: :D

That is sooo funny. I had no idea it was your car ineon.

I thought it might be a good idea to let the members of the forum help with the pricing.


Did I represent the car accuratly in the post ?

Looking forward to seeing the car this weekend hopefully.

Thank You
RichC

t walgamuth 08-07-2006 11:32 PM

the 200d was a euro car. that is def a euro bumper set up on the rear and prob on the front too.

and because of the euro stuff i would have been lighter too. so the difference between it and a 240 will prob be minimal in performance.

tom w

Palangi 08-07-2006 11:45 PM

Euro car for sure, look where the antenna is.

H-townbenzoboy 08-08-2006 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry edwards (Post 1238717)
I'm thinking it's a typo. I don't think MB sold a 200d in 1983.

MB made 20,444 200Ds in 1983.

http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/pines/6633/w123production.html

Also, what's the deal with the brick behind the rear wheel, parking brake broken or something?

sixto 08-08-2006 12:51 AM

It's more than a park brake. I don't think a 200D can make it over that brick on it's own power even with the slope of the driveway :)

I got to ride in a 200D AT with an autocrosser at the wheel and it had some hustle.

Sixto
... stay tuned

JimmyL 08-08-2006 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 1239614)
:eek: :D

That is sooo funny. I had no idea it was your car ineon.

RichC


I don't think it is his. Only that he has one that looks like it......

Rich, were you at the GTG with the 300D w/ trailer hitch?
I'm having name/user name issues.....

H-townbenzoboy 08-08-2006 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1239759)
I don't think it is his. Only that he has one that looks like it......

Rich, were you at the GTG with the 300D w/ trailer hitch?
I'm having name/user name issues.....

Yup, that was him. He was parked next to me at the GTG when we lined up our cars arranged by year for pics.

JimmyL 08-08-2006 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy (Post 1239768)
Yup, that was him. He was parked next to me at the GTG when we lined up our cars arranged by year for pics.

ate lunch with them. nice folks. would love to see 'em add to the fleet....:D

H-townbenzoboy 08-08-2006 02:36 AM

I'd love to see a 200D. I hope they add it to their fleet too, maybe they could bring it to the next get together. I remember seeing a writeup someone did with pics on driving a 200D in some European country. From what I could read, though it was slow, it wasn't that bad of a car. I can't find the article now, I wished I had bookmarked it, anyone remember it?

iNeon 08-08-2006 03:37 AM

oh! no no! That is not my Shlomo car, but it looks like a dandy!!

I just really like the looks of a white w123, that's all:)

Mark DiSilvestro 08-08-2006 09:56 AM

I like it, but you might want to check with your auto insurance provider first. Some people have had serious problems insuring grey-market cars in the US, while others report no problems with their insurance.

Happy Motoring, Mark

R Leo 08-08-2006 11:16 AM

Once we got past the fact that the Farmers database couldn't determine the year, make and model of my Euro 240D from the VIN, and that they were basically going to have to hand-underwrite it, everything went just fine.

riethoven 08-08-2006 11:20 AM

Front is US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 1239650)
the 200d was a euro car. that is def a euro bumper set up on the rear and prob on the front too.

and because of the euro stuff i would have been lighter too. so the difference between it and a 240 will prob be minimal in performance.

tom w

The front bumper is definately US issue. Look at the difference in height of the rubber corners. If it was a Euro front bumper the corners would be the same height as the back ones. That is the only one I have ever seen like that.

winmutt 08-08-2006 11:43 AM

200D? Whats that 40HP? I'd rather get a bug :)

Mark DiSilvestro 08-08-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 1240029)
200D? Whats that 40HP? I'd rather get a bug :)

Old bug or new bug?
I'll take any 200D over an old VW Beetle.

Actually, my reference gives 55 DIN hp for the '77 Euro W123 200D, 10 less than the 240D. I don't have figures for the '83 200D, but it could be higher, especially if it has the newer diesel, like the '80s 190D.

Happy Motoring, Mark

Mark DiSilvestro 08-08-2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Leo (Post 1240014)
Once we got past the fact that the Farmers database couldn't determine the year, make and model of my Euro 240D from the VIN, and that they were basically going to have to hand-underwrite it, everything went just fine.

Someone on one of these Forums posted their sad insurance experience with a grey-market W123 230CE.
Seems his insurance agent initially insured the car, but when underwriting reveiwed the policy, they told him to get rid of the car or they would cancel ALL his insurance!

Another poster related a friends even more catastrophic insurance experience. After years of covering a grey-market car, the vehicle was involved in a major accident, then the underwriter cried "Fraud!" and refused coverage, leaving the owner holding the bag on a huge liability expense!

These days when insurance companies are looking for any excuse not to pay, you better check with yours before you buy grey-market.

Or, to paraphrase those MPG decals, "Your insurance experience may vary".

Happy Motoring, Mark

R Leo 08-08-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark DiSilvestro (Post 1240150)
Another poster related a friends even more catastrophic insurance experience. After years of covering a grey-market car, the vehicle was involved in a major accident, then the underwriter cried "Fraud!" and refused coverage, leaving the owner holding the bag on a huge liability expense!

I'd like to see them do that after 10+ years of spotless driving and payments. I'd have the State AG on their asses....big time.

RichC 08-08-2006 03:56 PM

Yes that was me and my girlfriend at the Texas GTG
 
Yes, I am the owner of the 81 300 D with the trailer hitch that was at the Texas GTG.


It was that get together that convinced my girlfriend.
She wants a Mercedes now also. :D

Plus I need something else to drive while I work on that beast you saw at the GTG. I love the car but it could sure use some time in the garage.


Thank You
RichC

t walgamuth 08-08-2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riethoven (Post 1240017)
The front bumper is definately US issue. Look at the difference in height of the rubber corners. If it was a Euro front bumper the corners would be the same height as the back ones. That is the only one I have ever seen like that.

yes you are right. it looked as if it does not stick out as much as a us bumper but it it as you note, too tall to be euro.

tom w


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