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Old300D · #46 08-08-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Not counting labor, facility to manufacture, storage, etc, etc tho

You are just envious.

aklim · #47 08-08-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Old300D

You are just envious.

No, I am happy for you that you can do it. However, just like you or somebody said, if they were to sell their "fuel" it would cost the buyer $6 a gal. I've been bit too many times by all the low cost items that suddenly become a monster that nickle and dimes you to death. Hence, I always want to know the total cost up front. Same thing when I consider how much a car costs me. I figure time in based on book time and as tho I were sending it to a mechanic. That way, I know how much the real costs are and not hidden costs.

Old300D · #48 08-08-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

No, I am happy for you that you can do it. However, just like you or somebody said, if they were to sell their "fuel" it would cost the buyer $6 a gal. I've been bit too many times by all the low cost items that suddenly become a monster that nickle and dimes you to death. Hence, I always want to know the total cost up front. Same thing when I consider how much a car costs me. I figure time in based on book time and as tho I were sending it to a mechanic. That way, I know how much the real costs are and not hidden costs.

Well I just updated my numbers. It took 4 hours from start to fiish to make 55 gallons of fuel with my larger processor. Removing my materials cost, at the current price of diesel, I made nearly $30.00 an hour.

Ken300D · #49 08-08-2006, 08:08 PM

Well, I stopped by BJ's this afternoon to continue loading up on soy oil.

Shocked to find the soy oil cubes have been pulled from the shelf. All they had in cubes were canola and peanut oil, and both are much more expensive than soy. Shades of human slavery as a European!

Would appreciate current reports on your own BJ's and Costco. I may consider changing over to Costco if cubes are available there.

Ken300D

TheDon · #50 08-08-2006, 08:45 PM

im going veggie, i need the money for projects at school, plus ill break even after maybe 3 months of running veggie, i use 10 gallons a week at the most.. hopefully my place of employment (which uses 50+ gallons a week) will let me have 10 gallons a week, if not i still have other places that will be nice .

dieseldiehard · #51 08-08-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken300D

Well, I stopped by BJ's this afternoon to continue loading up on soy oil.

Shocked to find the soy oil cubes have been pulled from the shelf. All they had in cubes were canola and peanut oil, and both are much more expensive than soy. Shades of human slavery as a European!

Would appreciate current reports on your own BJ's and Costco. I may consider changing over to Costco if cubes are available there.

Ken300D

Costco shelves were loaded w/ Soy Oil cubes as of Monday. $13 and change.

Lostyankee · #52 08-09-2006, 02:41 AM

That pipline was mostly built using Korean steel and if you looked at the UT and x-ray sheets, heck many had the same #'s in the bottom right corner! Gee, ya think someone fudged a bit here? But who cares? Pass the cost on to the end user!
Yup, BP is foreign and can only be busted in the world court!
BTW, I did not weld on that pipline but do know many who did and tested the welds and steel. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did!
Now when will folk understand that pipelines commonly run pigs and 'lookers', internal and external to check on the condition of the line so the company can chose when to repair without a rupture. In other words they waited till the profits were maxed to offset their "loses" ... and don't do a search on the $ per minute BP makes in profit, but their our allies in the Glup war!!!!!!!!!!!!
But then our hero in the big chair practiced a different '8 miles high' than real troups. Oh, he's a Christian now! Drat, I forgot!
?Would you buy this country from a guy like that????????????
Ok, I'll get of my soap box now and resume my politically correct sheep baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
BTW: If Christanity is the way and the only way, and there are many 'christian' religion groups, all finding ways to throw boogers on the others, ... that means our loving God has room in his heart for less than 1% of the population. If that is not bigotry, I need a new or newspeak dictionary. We make our god to our immage or go to another church.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Mistress · #53 08-15-2006, 11:48 AM

3.25 northern, va.

2.5Turbo · #54 08-16-2006, 02:28 AM

Highest I saw today, 3.59. Lowest, 2.99...at a location you would think would be the most expensive...small station in the middle of the neighborhood! And to top it off (heh), it's the closest station to my house that sells diesel.

Flying J was 3.33...I'm using that trusty ol' neighborhood 76 until they come to their senses and jack it up...

Lostyankee · #55 08-16-2006, 09:00 AM

Just a few observations:
1.Back in the '70s, gas went down to $0.19 per gallon in price wars and averaged $0.29 till 1975 or 6 when the ME flexed their power.
2.Diesel back then was cheaper than gas. I do not know the ratio of gas to diesle vehicles over time but with less companies using rail, diesel vehicles should have increased.
3.In 1985 at the Chicago Ag. Engineering convention, industrial engine mfg. all agreeded we could make a better engine but the quality of fuel is a major limiting factor and the quality of fuel has decreases as less volitals are flamed off at the cracking plant and reblended.
4.Refined fuel in this country is transported to major terminals via a pipeline system like the electrical grid and what goes in one end is not what you buy at the pump. for example, lets say Sinclair Oil Co. puts a gallon in the pipeline at Galveston. At the same time you buy 1 gallon from a Sinclair station in St. Paul. What you bought has a very slight chance of being even a drop of Sinclair's input to the pipeline. Some fuel companies blend after the pipeline (thanks Ronald Raygun) but this is mostly to obtain federal tax breaks. So most of the advertizing of X fuel over Y fuel is bunk ... pun if you know what bunker oil is.
5.Alaskan oil is around 3% of USA demand. Look at other sources and the political crap this administration has created with ... S. Americian oil.
6.We are fighting a war in Afganistan. A younger friend who does some 'wet black work' says we have pushed the nasty guys away from the pipeline route and 'mission done'.
7.Do a search on the end user of the oil that will be pumped from the Afgan pipeline ... India will pay a higher $ so guess what?
8.Look at WWII German pincher tactics on a global scale ... resources. Oil fields in the ... oh, the Afgan pipeline again ... mid east ... Why do you think we built Iran in WWII? 1/3 of all goods given to USSR came through Iran. Why were Germans in N. Africa attacking Montgomery? Did the Germans need sand?
8.Germany farmed N. Italy using methane. Plastics, lubricating oil, fuel for the German war effort was not based 100% on dino fuel. Germany has few petrol. resources, but they seamed to be able to kick ass on a large sacle.
9.Japan's fuel resources where and are in the same situation as Germany in WWI. We provide access to our (treaty signed after WWII) national fuel reserves (mostly for Navy) to Japan ... one of the major reasons Japan attacked in WWII.
10.Resource control rules.
11.Most folk are sheep and will feel pride in buying a used country from a huxter (sp?) like GWB. Most polliticians have one hand in your back pocket and the other in (take a guess) of big $.
12.Do a search on BP profit per minute. Do you realy think we have as much clout as big $? We will be raped untill we are concidered worth-less.

Enuf.

Gary F. · #56 08-16-2006, 10:56 AM

There has been a siginificant drop in gas prices this week in my area. RUG is $2.61, diesel $2.79. Last weeks terrorists scare, dropped RUG to 1.99 on the wholesale market and crude oil dropped by about $2. a barrel. Also BP announced that only 1/2 of the oil field in Alaska was going to be shut down, now 200,000 barrels a day instead of 400,000 drop.
The refineries in the US are unable to keep up with demand and we are having to import gasoline from other countries. This is the main problem with prices at the pump, not crude oil supply but refining capacity. There has not been one new refinerey built since the early 1980's because of the cost and goverment regulations. Demand continues to grow even though prices are up siginificantly. Until demand slackens we are going to continue to pay high prices at the pump.

This is a good site for more information on what is going on with fuel prices and you can subscribe to their email letter.http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip.asp

OMEGAMAN · #57 08-16-2006, 12:36 PM

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Lets see, I build a refinery and go thru all that envoronmental BS in return for what? Everyone says build a refinery. However, when it comes down to it, NIMBY still rules. Not in MY Back Yard. Look at what Al Gore promised to Nevada. Nuclear waste won't be stored in Yucca Mtns. Does he say where it will be stored? Nope. This way he gets NV votes and doesn't lose any by not naming where he plans to store it. Maybe he was thinking the moon would be a good place like in Space 1999. Not to be taking sides but this is where the problem is. NV is happy because it won't be stored there but where should it go? Nobody seems to want it.

It's no longer NIMBY it's BANANA build absolutley nothing anywhere near anyone. Get some control of the green lobby in washington and we could build some more refineries.
Who the hell said BIG OIL it's big environment/ government. BTW last night I watched a show on the next impending doom on the planet. Another ice age, It's coming fast and to your back yard. I remember hearing about this when I was a kid. Maybe it was re run.

OMEGAMAN · #58 08-16-2006, 12:38 PM

Oh yeah one more thing Government make more on a gallon of gasoline than BIG OIL!

duresmith · #59 08-16-2006, 12:47 PM

In Northern cal we are paying around $3.30 a gallon. But don't expect it to get any better. If you haven't heard of the concept of peak oil, check out
www.hubbertpeak.com. As demand for oil skyrockets in India and China, the world's ability to suck more oil out of the ground is slowing down or even decreasing. For the first time sinse the industrial revolution we will see demand for oil outstrip our abililty to supply it.
The world is changing but is the US going to pull its head out of the sand?
Mark

Hatterasguy · #60 08-16-2006, 12:58 PM

$3.13 in my neck of the woods.