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Old 08-22-2006, 09:20 PM
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Thrust bearing for a 300DT manual conversion

Well, I'm embarking on another Land Rover project powered by a Benz diesel. This time it will be a long wheel base model and powered by a 617 turbo. I'm going to balance and install a 616 flywheel to the back of it but was wondering...Do the 617s have a "thrust" face on one of the main bearings to take the load of the clutch being disengaged? Were there different bearings and crank shafts for the Euro manual 617s?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

By the way...this is what these trucks look like when I start!



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Old 08-22-2006, 09:22 PM
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wow.. not much to it when you start out..
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:45 PM
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the sticks and autos have the same cranks.

now that is an ambitious project. but hey, with an aluminum body, why not?

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Old 08-22-2006, 09:56 PM
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Just 'cause it's aluminum doesn't mean is doesn't corrode. In fact, most of the body panels will need to be replaced (including all the aluminum ones). The only things that will be saved are the bulkhead (firewall), windshield frame and roof. The rest is gone.

For reasons I won't bore you with, this truck is an elusive candidate for the 617 swap as it is a rare NADA 6cyl version and has a very deep bulkhead. There were only 1500 ever built and all came to the US or Canada. I've got a 616 in my short wheel base truck but thought installing a 617 would be impossible because of the extra length. That is, until I saw this bulkhead!

Anyway, these are bolt-together trucks and almost all the parts are still available so they're very easy to restore. The first big purchase will be a new galvanized chassis.

Anyway, thanks for the help!

Jim

And if you haven't seen, this is what the 88" (short wheel base) truck looks like now. Powered by a 616. Even drove it to Labrador last year!

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Old 08-22-2006, 10:07 PM
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awesome. Have you taken it swimming with that snorkel?
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:48 AM
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No, nothing too deep. I did cross the Platte River in Wyoming with it once and I’ve had it about three feet deep here and there, but it’s not very good for the truck so I try to avoid it. The snorkel is mainly for getting clean air to the motor when running in a convoy on dirt roads.
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Old 08-23-2006, 10:39 PM
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it looks lovely! i have always liked those little land rovers. with a benz diesel seems perfect.

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