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sokoloff 08-27-2006 11:56 AM

I just did and it reaffirms what I said. The alkaline solution is the dishwashing soap or Liquid Tide I mentioned. The citric acid solution is an acidic solution not an alkaline solution and is not used for deoiling.

BTW, this is the first time I've pulled up a document on WIS using the document number. Is there a menu somewhere in WIS of all the document numbers and what they pertain to?

Thanks.

Len

Carson357 08-29-2006 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sokoloff (Post 1258787)
I just did and it reaffirms what I said. The alkaline solution is the dishwashing soap or Liquid Tide I mentioned. The citric acid solution is an acidic solution not an alkaline solution and is not used for deoiling.

BTW, this is the first time I've pulled up a document on WIS using the document number. Is there a menu somewhere in WIS of all the document numbers and what they pertain to?

Thanks.

Len

not really a list of them that i know of, there could be one some where, but not likely by mercedes, i will order the product given by part number and see what arrive, i will let you know what i find. thanks for the information

gsxr 08-29-2006 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokoloff (Post 1258540)
The citric acid is not for deoiling. It is for decalcification/descaling. Mercedes has another product for deoiling or some just use dishwasher detergent or Liquid Tide. The manual says to do the deoiling procedure before using the citric acid. At least that's what the factory manual for the 123 says

Len

Len is correct... a different product is used for de-oiling. I've purchased both from the MB dealer, they are NOT the same, and they do not do the same things to the cooling system. If you use a generic product for de-oiling, make sure it's low-sudsing... dishwasher detergent should be much better than laundry detergent. I would NOT bother with de-oiling unless you have a problem with oil in the coolant.

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sokoloff 08-29-2006 05:58 PM

Dave - please read post #10. Why does Mercedes specifically make this statement? There's got to be a good reason?

Len

Carson357 08-29-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokoloff (Post 1261152)
Dave - please read post #10. Why does Mercedes specifically make this statement? There's got to be a good reason?

Len

i ordered the 001-986-21-71 and it does infact say degreasing agent, does anyone have the citus cleaner part number available? i would like to order that and see what arrives

sokoloff 08-29-2006 09:45 PM

123 manual says to use a 10% solution of water and citric acid, tartaric acid or oxalic acid (sold by the chemical trade) with preference given to citric acid. I know that Mercedes does have its own part number for it, but I'm not sure what it is. I bought it at a pharmacy. Got a pound for about $7 I think.

Len

gsxr 08-30-2006 04:20 PM

The citirc acid powder is 000-989-10-25 for a 0.5kg container, and I think you need two of those at a rather spendy $20/each, list price. The part number appears in the W124 acid flush procedure:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/citric_acid_flush.pdf

:eek:


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