The 300SD's oil cooler lines are extremly shot. I have to do something about them before they blow. They look like a pita, the engine mount has to come out it seems. If I do remove them I'm going to have a local place crimp on new lines.

But here is an idea, what kind of oil pressure do these things run at? 50psi? Why couldn't I just cut the hoses off in place. Then get some hydrolic hose and double clamp it to the metal fittings? Heck I could even flair the fitting a bit.

This car isn't worth much to me and I really don't want to have to get under it and go through all that trouble if there is a short cut.

Two high quality hose clamps could handle 50psi.

__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I spent about $110 for my lines... new OEM units. This is one place not to cheap out on...

You can have a new mount, shock, and lines installed in about 90min. It's not too hard to do.

__________________
I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]

I did the same thing...has been great for over 1.5 years so far.

__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

Some nitwit added a bypass oil filter to one of the oil cooler lines on my dead 240 engine (probably why it seized ) using a barb T and clamps. It seemed to hold and not leak, but I would spring for new lines. I just got a pair for $90 in the parts section.

__________________
1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

No need to remove anything to remove the oil cooler lines...

Just undo the connections at the oil filter housing and the oil cooler, then that clamp under the power steering pump (10mm bolt) and snake the lines out of there one by one... Thats the way I did it, worked great.

If (by chance) you need to replace the motor mounts, go ahead and do the lines at the same time... it will be easier.

My car had hose clamps holding the oil cooler lines together when I first got it... didnt hold worth a crap. I just removed the lines and had new (equivelent) line crimped on at the local hydraulic shop. I think it cost me $36.

They have been holding up well (about 2 years later)

I've seen it done on a w123 300D without any issues.

__________________
Jim

I don't want to remove the engine mount if I can avoid it because the bolts are probably seized. I have never had good luck with W126 engine mounts.

Well if they are not that bad I'll just take them out.

__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I would be afraid to trust clamps unless I really didn't care about losing the engine. On a winter beater, I would probably just keep the old lines until/unless they actually leaked significantly. How long are you planning on keeping it?

Planing on selling it in May, the lines are leaking pretty bad. I just don't want to have to deal with one blowing. Last winter I watched them, this winter its ify something needs to be done.

I trust hose clamps to hold the exhuast line on a $1m boat, and for various underwater applications.

I'm thinking a few feet of hydraulic line, double clamped onto the fittings. I can just cut off the hose with a cut off wheel, and clamp the hoses on.

I am leaning towards this because when I did the cooler lines on the SDL, I stripped the fittings on the cooler itself. Stuff just does not like coming apart on these old cars and I really don't want to get involved in a big project. I am half tempted to make up some plates and just block the whole cooler off. This is a winter car what does it need an oil cooler for? It takes forever to even get the coolant to 80C.

__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Make sure you understand the implications of doing that with regards to oil flow through and around the thermostat.

The oil pressure has a max of 7bar (101.53psi).

I won't say they can't hold it. My TD's lower hose was held on by a single hose clamp for over two years before I noticed it.

I will say, don't risk it.

If you are not going to keep the car then the risk of the shortcut is a lot less than replacing the lines.

I say that because the chance of stripping the threads on the oil cooler are pretty high and a new oil cooler might cost more than your "beater" is worth. Also, if you are worried about your motor mount that's another can of worms.

I am sure that you can get some high pressure line that is about 15mm id and some clamps that will seal it. The tricky part will be to cut the metal lines so that you have enough line to clamp the hose on before the bend. you can probably put a little flair on the end so that the line won't slip off.

So do it and see how it works. Your worst case is that you will have to buy a couple of new lines and do it the proper way.

__________________
Tom Hughes
St. Louis
84 300SD
92 300D
86 300SDL

If you do this, pay attention to the new lines and tighten them after a few days of use. I put an oil cooler on my Rabbit some years back using worm clamps and a few days later one of the lines popped off althogh it was tight when I installed it. That was the one time I was glad I had an IDIOT light.

Rick

__________________
80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)

Aftermarket and dealer installed A/C systems use hose clamps and they seem to work for years trouble free. Track down a set of A/C clamps and see what the difference is. The hoses they use may work too.

You have a $1m boat and your trying to cheap out on oil lines? It's the cheap guy who ends up paying the most. I would definitely put new ones on it.

__________________
2005 Accord Hybrid (Wifes)
1995 Subaru Impreza L AWD (Snow car)
1984 GMC Sierra 1500 (Mine)
1983 300CD Best $ I ever spent. (Mine)
1984 190D (sold and glad I did)
1983 300D (sold and wished I hadn't)