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Old 08-31-2006, 03:13 AM
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Wow, there's a GP reamer for the 606 on eBay $135
Looks like a modified lugnut

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Old 08-31-2006, 03:16 AM
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Only one I'm aware of, pre-CDI, is the inline 5, OM602.946.

It was a 2.9 liter version of the old 2.5 we're familiar with.
Is it coincidence that 2.9 liters, or more specifically 2874cc, is exactly 5/6 of a 603.97 just as the 602.96 is 5/6 of a 603.96?

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Old 08-31-2006, 06:34 AM
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Hard to find information about Euro models. Likely earlier versions have the 603/606 engine.
As a Brit, I can tell you that the cars I see driving around in this country are:

W210 E-class

E300 N/A diesel
E300 TD

The rest are all CDi or petrols. N/A 300's are very rare, TD's are much more popular. I think theres a 250 diesel as well, but I haven't seen any.
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:49 AM
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I am also interested in what was improved from OM617 to OM 60x and beyond... I don't think the thread starter was trying to compare one engine to another other than to find out what changed (and improved efficiency/hp)


From the 617 to the 603, didnt the change the shape/size of the prechambers ?
Did Injection pressures remain constant throughout ?
Didnt the injectors change between the 617 and the 603's ?
Bore x Stroke ratio changes ? did they change this ?


If you can answer these, I'll try to find more =)

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Old 08-31-2006, 10:02 PM
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I hear they will use the 3.2 V6 CDI in the 07 models.
Oops, it's a 3.0 liter OM642 DE 30 LA V6. Not 3.2L like I had thought.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:03 PM
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Only one I'm aware of, pre-CDI, is the inline 5, OM602.946.

It was a 2.9 liter version of the old 2.5 we're familiar with. It utilized direct injection, although Mercedes took a step back from the 606 and went back in time to the 2-valve per cylinder head, for some reason.



Different valve cover and intake manifold, too.

Hard to find information about Euro models. Likely earlier versions have the 603/606 engine.
Now that's interesting that they still classified it as a 602. Which cars had that engine? It looks more like a 606 than a 602. My 602.962 looks like a short 603.

That would have been cool if MB did a 5 cylinder 606, maybe called a 605 and put it in the C-class...you probably would have gotten 40mpg or better in that thing, and it still would have been quick if turboed
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:08 PM
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Ah...found it...290GD, 1992 edition I believe (could be wrong, I was looking at a site that wasn't in Engilsh)

Not much info on Google about it.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:14 PM
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That would have been cool if MB did a 5 cylinder 606, maybe called a 605
They did.
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Old 09-01-2006, 04:07 PM
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Ah...found it...290GD, 1992 edition I believe (could be wrong, I was looking at a site that wasn't in Engilsh)
There was a 250GD for sale in Vancouver, BC when we were up there last year. If I only had a way to register it at home I'd have bought it.

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Old 09-01-2006, 04:52 PM
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Now that's interesting that they still classified it as a 602. Which cars had that engine? It looks more like a 606 than a 602. My 602.962 looks like a short 603.

That would have been cool if MB did a 5 cylinder 606, maybe called a 605 and put it in the C-class...you probably would have gotten 40mpg or better in that thing, and it still would have been quick if turboed
It has a different valve cover, and electronic engine management. Also, the intake is like that of the 4-valve per cylinder versions: electronically metered.

Its the same as your 602, except for the artwork, and whatever else was needed to allow for direct injection (different pistons/injectors/no prechambers/high capacity pump, etc).

Sixto,
I've read reports of these things bending rods too. Never thought to compare the displacement to the 350. Exactly 5/6'ths, indeed. Now I know why there are problems. Somewhere on carsurvey.org I read about the issue (fellow over in east Asia, can't remember precisely where).

Not much information available about them, anywhere.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:50 PM
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turbo OM605 had 150hp and it was available W202 C-class and Italian W210 class.
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Old 09-01-2006, 07:39 PM
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Not much information available about them, anywhere.
HERE is one going into a Jeep Scrambler.
"I sent out a call for help on MBZ G-wagon chat groups and got an immediate reply from a guy in New Zealand that was putting the same motor in his G-wagon. ... We found out that the DE2.9LA MBZ motors are the same motors that MBZ uses in the US Marine Corps "fast attack" G-wagons and a tuned down version in being put in the new Dodge Sprinter vans."
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