Hello everyone!

I was cleaning up the euro headlamp lenses in my 300D W123 and I noticed the reflective vessels are all faded. Anyone knows where can I buy a set of them? the rest of the assembly is in good shape (lenses and mounts). I only need the main and fog reflectors

Regards

I can assume that these are not the round ones
but the oval ones?

MB has atleast the mains.

PN#s
000 826 6678 bosh L
000 826 6778 bosh R
001 826 3178 bosh L with vacuum adjust
001 826 6478 hella L with vacuum adjust
001 826 3078 bosh R with vacuum adjust
001 826 6578 hella R with vacuum adjust
I would say maybe $70ea but not sure.
These are the headlites

I don't see the fogs listed in my book.
But I would think that either bosh or hella should be
able to supply them.

Hope this helps.

Louis.

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Thanks for the help Louis.

They are in fact the oval ones that match with the square lenses. Do you know any online store where I can get them from? I already asked the local benz dealer, but they would only sell me the complete headlight (lense, assembly).

Regards

I don't see why the dealer would only sell you the whole
assembly, unless it's to make more money.
Did you try to give them the PN#s of whatever
you have( hella or bosh)?
They should be able to get just the reflectors.
That includes the fogs I think.

Louis.

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juanesoto.

I emailed both Bosch Germany and Hella Belgium.

Bosch seems to have a division that does parts for
classic cars so that seems to be our best bet.

I picked Hella Belgium because both my parents where
from there and I spend 23 years of my life there.
I speak fluent flemish so it was a little easier to explain
what it was that I wanted.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Louis.

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I really appreciate your help Louis. I checked and I have the Hella ones with the vacuum level system. I called the dealer and they told me they only had the complete assembly, that they could get me the vessels only but for a very high price which makes buying the whole assembly a better idea (new lenses, new everything).

I'm thinking of maybe sending the vessels to the chrome shop. I talked with Daniel from www.danielsternlighting.com and he told me chrome wasn't such a good idea because its only a 67% reflective, while the original vessels are about 99% reflective. Its a huge diference, however 67% is better than nothing, which is my case. The whole reflective surface from the vessels chipped off.

All this is why I'm looking for new original vessels. I keep my fingers crossed....

Again thanks for your help louis.

Regards

There is a guy on the west coast that specializes in re silvering reflectors but not cheap. I will get his name, address and telephone number etc. if you are interested.. Steves restorations in oregon I believe. Only one doing it to my knowledge but that is somewhat limited. I have one set of new reflectors for one side if they are the right ones to spare. Perhaps a good chance to pick up some eurolights on ebay as they come up from time to time new and price seems to be dropping compared to what I paid for mine. It is good that you found out the chrome limitation. Almost seems to absorb light to some extent. Poor substitute for bright silver I know. I also considered setting up a bright silver bath as I own plating equipment as well. I tried to buy new reflectors for bosh spotlights to no avail a few years ago. In the process bosh distributor stated they could reffer a few requests a week if I was interested in plating them.

Well, I just got word back from Bosch Germany.
They only sell the whole assembly to MB so I guess that
would be the way to go.

But I haven't heard from the Hella guy since he's on vacation
and won't be back until sat.

Might be the same answer but we will see.

I have a question for you.

How much was MB asking for the whole assembly?

The reason I ask is because I have the same problem
but I have the earlier versions of the Euro's.
And might have to do the same thing.

Louis.

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I see them on German eBay from time to time. There is also a Dutch W123 site with links to different parts suppliers. Als je Vlaams sprek dan kan je Nederlands lesen.

Groetjes uit New York

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1987 300TD x 3
2005 E320CDI

I restore antique furniture and have had many mirrors resilvered. I got mine resilvered [w123] and they cost all of $14 each, their minium charge.

Check with your local glass and mirror shop. Some shops send them out so just ask them if they do it inhouse or send it out. If they send it out then track down their source for your best price.

Cheers,

Bill

Thanks for the info guys. I really appreciate your help.

Louis, I don't have the amount on hand now, I'll look for the quote and let you know.

Bill, which is the resilvering proccess? Any idea of how they do it? Which where the results in you W123?

Regards.

Geen probleem met het lezen van het Nederlands.
"Transl: No problem reading Dutch."
I even read German pretty well.
Speaking it is a totally different story.

Groetjes uit New Jersey.

Louis.

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Hi Juan.

I just heard from the Hella guy in Belguim and
this is what he gave me.

9DE 127 409-051 reflector H4-headlight L
9DE 127 408-051 reflector H4-headlight R

These are hella parts #s and from what I understood
these are the round ones for the earlier Euros.
But I'm not sure, his email was kinda confusing.

Only headlight reflectors available not the fogs.

Louis.

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Thanks for the help Louis. Any chance of getting the oval ones with vacuum adjust?

I made a couple of phone calls and it seems to be someone in town who restores antique mirrors. They told me they might be able to re-silverplate my vessels, but there's no guarantee it will work, so I'll leave that as a last resort.

Louis, I'll wait for your response and if it seems too difficult to get the oval ones I'll proceed with the re-silverplate. If I go this way, I'll let you know the outcome and the results.

I really appreciate your help.

Regards,

Juan

Any place that resilvers antique mirrors can do just as good of a job on your vessels. I don't understand why they say there's no guarantee it will work. Do they not guarantee good results on the resilvered antique mirrors? The mirror company I deal with has no problem silvering anything so long as it is made of glass.

Cheers,

Bill