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Old 09-08-2006, 07:22 AM
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300 D Hard to start

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I have a 1984 benz 300D turbo Diesel I was told when I bought it
That it had problems starting at times. I have replaced both fuel
filters and replaced the primer pump and added a 12 volt fuel pump
in line right after the first filter(for priming).The problem is that it takes for ever to start once it gets started it runs very good but let it sit for 4 or 5 hours and it is hard to start again. Please help Thanks: Ronald

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Old 09-08-2006, 08:12 AM
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Was Told I needed to move my post here so here it goes:
I have a 1984 benz 300D turbo Diesel I was told when I bought it
That it had problems starting at times. I have replaced both fuel
filters and replaced the primer pump and added a 12 volt fuel pump
in line right after the first filter(for priming).The problem is that it takes for ever to start once it gets started it runs very good but let it sit for 4 or 5 hours and it is hard to start again. Please help Thanks: Ronald



Have you checked out the heater-plugs and the supply to them.....?

I suspect you may have a plug or three out. Its surprising you only say need two to fail in a 5 pot engine to make it difficult to start when cold.....

Any more than 2 out and it can be nearly impossible to fire-up when cold, in Winter!
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:43 AM
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if you have no leaks in the fuel lines

all that work on the fuel system, you could easily have a air leak there.
go to www.dieselgiant.com and follow the links for MB and glow plugs testing.
good luck.
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:09 PM
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Glow plugs

I have tested the glowplugs I turned key on and put a test light

to each glow plug and light came on so I would say that the

glow plugs are working are there any other way to test them

or would it be best just to get a new set?
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:34 PM
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I have tested the glowplugs I turned key on and put a test light

to each glow plug and light came on so I would say that the

glow plugs are working are there any other way to test them

or would it be best just to get a new set?
That just verifies that they are getting power. If you unplug the cable to the GPs from the relay, you can test the resistance of each GP, the should be about 0.6 ohm. Usually a bad one will read infinity.
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:54 PM
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Ahhh... no.

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I have tested the glowplugs I turned key on and put a test light

to each glow plug and light came on so I would say that the

glow plugs are working are there any other way to test them

or would it be best just to get a new set?
there are detailed instructions on testing the plugs themselves at DG's site.
http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm
very easy, you just need a good digital ohm meter
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1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
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Old 09-09-2006, 07:44 PM
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Update

Found #2 and #4 glow plug bad They were ac plugs am replacing them with Champion plugs. will only replace the 2 right now and dieselgiants
kit later on.
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Old 09-09-2006, 08:17 PM
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They were ac plugs am replacing them with Champion plugs.
The Champion plugs will last about one year. A set of Bosch or Beru plugs will last for more than 5 years........sometimes as long as 10 years if they are not used often.

This site sells the Bosch plugs. Click on "Buy parts" at the top of the page.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:04 PM
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update

New glow plug are in and it started right up with no problem.

I would agree that Bosh is a Better plug only than can not get them

at local parts store. Thanks for the help: Ronald

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