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Old 09-12-2006, 08:20 PM
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Cracked Control Arm--Not much time

I've been hearing a clunk when I make a sharp left hand turn for awhile so today I decide to take it into Les Schawaab so they can tell me what's going on. They eventually call me under the lift where my car is and point and the problem: Driver's side control arm tab (rear side) is completely cracked.

This leads me to two questions: 1) Is it still somewhat safe to drive? (as in what are the odds my wheel is going to fly off in the next few weeks) and 2) Can it be welded (and if so can anyone tell me who can do it in Oregon before I head off to school on Sunday).

Picture attached shows the hideous, spirit crushing crack.

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Old 09-12-2006, 08:30 PM
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i wouldnt drive it... just the thought of the left wheel suddenly lodging it self sideways while going 65 mph doesnt sound fun or anything related to loosing steering
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:43 PM
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Dude, not worth your life risking it.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:44 PM
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This leads me to two questions: 1) Is it still somewhat safe to drive? (as in what are the odds my wheel is going to fly off in the next few weeks) and 2) Can it be welded (and if so can anyone tell me who can do it in Oregon before I head off to school on Sunday)..

Negatory on both counts. I'd consider that a terminal failure. Unless somebody knows if that mount can be replaced (I don't know if it's removable) and you can swap it, DO NOT DRIVE IT.

I'd say it's a parts car now. Unsafe for anybody to drive on public roads.

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Old 09-12-2006, 08:56 PM
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You're really not making my day.

Question: Is this the same as what happened here? That's what gave me the slight hope that this could be welded...
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:02 PM
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It is NOT a parts car. My 85 had the same issue. Probably why I got it for the price I did. They pop rivited a piece of sheet metal. I went to a salvage yard and had one cut off for $40. It took about 4 hours to change. PM me and I'll give you decent directions.
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:17 PM
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It is NOT a parts car. My 85 had the same issue. Probably why I got it for the price I did. They pop rivited a piece of sheet metal. I went to a salvage yard and had one cut off for $40. It took about 4 hours to change. PM me and I'll give you decent directions.
YOU might be fine with welding it, but I would not trust welding on such a major suspension part to hold under daily stress.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:51 PM
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i am not clear as to exactly what is cracked in the picture.

imho whatever it is can be replaced.

welding if done by a qualified person shouldnt be a problem. but if it is near the pan of the car be careful about setting the undercoating on fire.

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Old 09-13-2006, 11:31 AM
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If you drive that car your not only risking your own life but every other motorist on the road with you.
However I do agree that's it's definitely not a parts car. I don't know if I'd go the welding route I would find a replacement.

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Old 09-13-2006, 11:41 AM
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On mine it was the rear trailing arm, and that can be replaced. I am unclear on what your picture is showing. If that is where the trailing arm attaches it will deffinately take a qualified welder. If its just the trailing arm, it unbolts, and you push the axle out of the hub and it will drop out.
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:18 PM
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I went and took a wider angle shot. Outlined in green is the cracked tab. In blue shows some other damage which suggests it could have been caused by impact, maybe?

Anyway I called the body shop who did the repairs to my car when ity got hit and they said they've seen this type of problem before and they believe they can weld it. Should be able to bring it into them next week. (actually I won't be bringing it in as I will be at OSU by then)

A little embarassed to say but it's made the clunk since february....
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:20 PM
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id have them weld it and maybe weld over both sides if possible a gusset or something..
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:04 PM
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I don't see why it can't be welded as long as the person doing the welding knows what they are doing. Make sure they replace the control arm bushings while it is apart.
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:24 PM
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I would weld it then put a plate over the whole thing,weld then drill the hole and put the bolt though both the old welded piece and the new plate.

better than new!

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Old 09-13-2006, 08:59 PM
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As one or two other posters suggested, the key is getting a qualified welder to weld it properly. And reinforce it. You aren't going to find this type of person at your local body shop UNLESS they have a frame machine on premises and routinely perform this type of work.

NOTE the LCA is putting pressure on that joint. To properly repair it, the LCA probably needs to be removed OR the bushing needs to be replaced AFTER the repair.

I'd be more inclined to have a front end specialist sublet the welding to a welder (bring the welder on premises) and then have the front end put back together properly.

Further that joint controls part of the front end alignment.

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