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617 performance question
I know these questions are played out, but will a 300sd sitll do 0-60 in 14 sec
on wvo fuel as well as petro diesel ??? my 85 is doing 19 sec times. Both fuel filters and banjo bolt are clean. no real smoke to talk about , I am puzzeled, Valve adjustment? or is it wvo dose not give the same performance ?? thanks. Yea , Yea , I know you guys hate this subject , But A** hole Bush has the prices in N.Y. at 3.44 a gal ! when gas is 2.45 !!!! Last edited by jef d; 09-17-2006 at 01:11 PM. |
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Uh, all politics aside, your car will not be as fast with biodiesel, nor will it get as good mileage as it does with petrodiesel. It's usually a 5 to 10 percent decrease.
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Yes it will slow it down somewhat, but only by 5-10%, it should still do 0-60 in about 13-14secs on wvo. I'd check fuel filters....manifold to alda boost line and make sure the engine is in good tune (valves adjusted etc...)
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Wow you guys sure do respond fast!
I agree, WVO should only slow it down a smidge... start searching the alda banjo bolt threads...
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Thanks guys, but I still have a problem !
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Well, then, it's time to locate a boost gauge and determine if the turbo is working properly. It needs to T into the ALDA line to see if you're getting sufficient boost.
You can also apply pressure to the ALDA and see if it holds, or if it bleeds slowly. Both are acceptable. If it leaks instantly, then you've got no fuel enrichment. |
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That doesn't seem to be the case anymore with the new ULSD. Mileage-wise, at least. I seem to be getting better mileage with bio now.
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Everything checked out fine on my car, valves, filters and stuff, and I was still running close to 20 second 0-60's. I got a boost controller and dropped it to the 16's.
Got a Garrett? Just get a manual boost controller I just don't buy the "stock 300SD will do 14 second bit." Sorry guys. Maybe when new, at sea level, but these are just old stinky cars, and I'm sure they slow down with age, just like we do. I know you can get it there, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of stock SD's are more around 18-20 seconds.
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12.70 seconds at sea level.
Not stock........2.88 diff installed!! If I can do it, you can certainly do 13 seconds with a 3.21 axle in CO. You need to run boost settings around 16 psi to achieve this. And, you might need to disable the overboost protection to allow it. At 5,000', your absolute pressure at 16 psi boost is 28.2 psi. At sea level, my absolute pressure at 13.5 psi boost is 28.2 psi. So, get out there and crank up that boost controller. You won't hurt that engine unless you come down to sea level with it. I'm not buying the "old stinky cars" line. The SD is close to 200K. It does benefit from new valves however. Last edited by Brian Carlton; 09-19-2006 at 06:27 PM. |
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I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm just saying I don't think they "should be running 14 seconds." I test drove quite a few of these before I bought mine, and they were all "stinky old cars."
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At 5000' you've got 21.20" absolute, so, a typical SD has no chance of 14.5 seconds. That's the same as 6 psi boost at sea level. The vehicle won't move. That's why all of them seem so slow. |
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I can definitely feel a difference between sea level and Denver in my 617, mostly below 2000 rpm. Above 2000 rpm, the boost tends to compensate, unless you are running WOT.
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What are you running for boost?
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Did you check your linkages?
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