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Lost ALL my gears during acceleration
I just started my car --'87 300D and as I began to accelerate I heard a loud bump under the car. It sounded like it was below the right backseat. I lost all acceleration and couldn't get any forward gear to engage.
I then (after braking) tried reverse. Nothing. Tried to put it in park to get out and look. It made a bad grinding sound that made me put it in neutral instead. I shut it off and restarted. When I tried to shift from neutral to drive, I could hear something that sounded like it was spinning and trying to "catch" something-- but couldn't. I pushed it to the curb and came here... the worlds premiere source of Benz Diesel assistance! Seriously... I check this formum before I even start talking to a mechanic. Thanks
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Take a look at your drive shaft.
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looked at drive shaft
Thanks for the quick reply.
I looked under the car and I dont see anything external that looks different.
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Is your driveshaft attached at both ends?
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Let Me Check
I have to go to the car to check...
It's a few blocks away. I'll see. Thanks
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Loud bump, no gears, back seat? I would wager a pile of cash that it was your rear flex disk.
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Same thought here, I bet you blew a flex disc, be thankful it was during acceleration and not at 75mph or something. Damage is probably minor, hopefully.
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Okay, I'm back.
I checked the driveshaft and didn't see anything. I turned the car on and moved through the gears. The noise sounded like it was coming from inside the trunk. I looked in the E-Class Bible, and saw the driveshaft flex disk. Is that it? What kind of fix is it and how can I diagnose it further to make sure? Coincidentally, I was three blocks from getting on the expressway!
Again, thanks.
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I hope you meant you didn't see anything wrong...
To be safe, check everything in the drivetrain. Transmission shifter bushings/links, flex discs, center bearing, etc.
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You should have someone put it in gear while you look at the driveshaft to see if it is turning. Not turning, problem from front of driveshaft forward. turning-problem from back of driveshaft back.
Obviously, don't lie in front of the wheels while doing this in case the situation changes suddenly.
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I believe you can check the flex disc visually for cracks and rips. Flash light and keep the car OFF.
You can also manually move the shaft around a bit to see if there is give. the disc is like a rubber washer. A disc-form. do a search of archives for specifics! good luck.
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You should be able to see the rear flex disk when you're lying down from behind the car. Its a big round rubber disk that connects the drive shaft to the differential.
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Here's an easy way to tell....can you push/roll the car along with it in park? If so, then the connection between transmission and wheels is no longer present. Its probably hard to see the flex discs on a W124, its probably all tucked up underneath vs on a W123 or W126 where its more in the open...
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oops, I was visualizing it on my car so I guess I just figured it was a w123 or w126
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I can push the car while it is in park....
I can push the car while it is in park. I need to raise the car in order to examine the flex discs fully. The question is.....if the transmission is disconnected from the driveshaft, what's next?
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