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Jmana 09-27-2006 09:19 PM

What's wrong with people?
 
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/213080785.html

An 84 300SD with close to 200k miles for $8,000!:confused:
I don't understand why people think they can get a ton of money for a car converted to run on veggie oil. I mean, even the most expensive kit is probably around $2,000, and you should be able to easily pick up an old 300SD for max $2,000. You'd have to use a lot of veggie oil to justify spending $8K on this car.

MBgrinder 09-27-2006 09:21 PM

People try to get what they put into a car.... they can try all they want. Who knows, after sitting on it for a month, maybee they will take less

Jeremy5848 09-27-2006 09:50 PM

Ooh! Ooh! Leopard seat covers!
 
My first motorcycle had a leopard seat cover. The girls loved it (and me). :D

Hatterasguy 09-27-2006 09:52 PM

If he can get it more power to him. The market as usual will determine the price.

Jmana 09-27-2006 10:20 PM

I think it's funny how he advertises the block heater like it's some expensive option! Also, the radio is still under warrantee, yeah!!!!! That alone should bring a couple extra grand:rolleyes: I see no mention of AC, so I'd assume that doesn't work. And I am sure the "leopard skin" seat covers are hiding some really nasty seats. I don't think I'd even give him $2,000 for this car.

captainmonk 09-28-2006 01:50 AM

the problem isnt in the asking it is in the paying

aklim 09-28-2006 07:05 AM

He did say "negotiable"

A real plush ride. 187,000 miles. 2 tank VO system. Fuel lines all changed to B-100 compatible rubber. Block heater. Brand new Pioneer CD/MP3/WMA/AM/FM in dash player still under warranty. Leopard skin seat covers. Sunroof. New rear rotors and pads, just adjusted the valve clearance, new glow plugs. $8000 negotiable.

greasybenz 09-28-2006 10:54 AM

It seems as though people think adding a veggie kit will add extra value to the car.

If you browse the SF bay area craigslist, every once in while you see 240D in ok shape priced at $10K because of its "oh so expensive" veggie kit that they added.

I wouldnt pay that much just because it has a veggie kit, shoot why would he be selling it if it runs on free fuel?

i paid $800 for my 300SD with a partcially working veg kit, of course the rest of the car needed serious work.

Hatterasguy 09-28-2006 12:25 PM

Actualy if I were in the market for another diesel MB, I'd deduct significantly if it had a WVO kit installed. I'd have to remove it, and restore everything to factory.

For example take two 300SD's both listed at $5k in about the same condition with the same mileage. One has a WVO kit the other is stock. I'd probably settle around $4k-$4.5k for the stock one.

Now the WVO car, $2k no more. If it had been a WVO car for quite a long time, I'd pass.

Jmana 09-28-2006 01:59 PM

I wouldn't want to buy a veggie car from someone else either, unless it was a really good setup, like perhaps a Frybrid conversion. The problem is you never know how many times they forgot to purge the system on shutdown, so you never know how carboned up the engine is.

Project 85 300D 09-28-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmana (Post 1288834)
I think it's funny how he advertises the block heater like it's some expensive option! ...

A block heater is a "must have" in NC. :D

Cateaux 09-28-2006 02:27 PM

Gee, maybe those seat covers are authentic leopard skins. $2,000 for the car, $6,000 worth of endangered cat!:D

aklim 09-28-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greasybenz (Post 1289186)
It seems as though people think adding a veggie kit will add extra value to the car.

I wouldnt pay that much just because it has a veggie kit, shoot why would he be selling it if it runs on free fuel?

Why? I'll show you why. www.prairiefirebiofuels.org sells B100 at $3.68. But wait, for paying them $150 a year, you get to buy it at $3.33. I can get D2 at $2.55. Why would I pay $0.80 a gal more assuming I am a paying member? Because they are trying to take advantage of people who have environmental concern. Just like panhandlers holding up a baby or a dog to gain sympathy. I have a couple of cans of dog food I feed to the dog myself in my car sometimes but I don't give a hoot about them.

Somebody might have tried it and found that it was more hassle than it was worth. If I did that and died, my wife would be selling it off because she doesn't want to screw around with it. She'd rather work a couple more hours and pay for the fuel. Maybe I got into an accident and cannot be going around to get the oil and process it. Plenty of reasons.

GREASY_BEAST 09-28-2006 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1289400)
Why? I'll show you why. www.prairiefirebiofuels.org sells B100 at $3.68. But wait, for paying them $150 a year, you get to buy it at $3.33. I can get D2 at $2.55. Why would I pay $0.80 a gal more assuming I am a paying member? Because they are trying to take advantage of people who have environmental concern. Just like panhandlers holding up a baby or a dog to gain sympathy. I have a couple of cans of dog food I feed to the dog myself in my car sometimes but I don't give a hoot about them.

Somebody might have tried it and found that it was more hassle than it was worth. If I did that and died, my wife would be selling it off because she doesn't want to screw around with it. She'd rather work a couple more hours and pay for the fuel. Maybe I got into an accident and cannot be going around to get the oil and process it. Plenty of reasons.

Thats interesting... for me, theres no way I'm gonna pay $2.55 for every 20 miles, when I can get it for free... I guess it all depends on how rich you are and how many miles you drive... 3.68 for biodiesel is a complete and total rip-off... so is 3.33. It should be around $2 or less, and it should be made with ethanol and oil feedstock from locally grown crops, with no external energy inputs (i.e. petroleum or biomass grown elsewhere). Just my opinion.

You said "Maybe I got into an accident and cannot be going around to get the oil and process it." I'm not sure why this is a reason not to do it... your car would still run fine on diesel.. I'm not trying to pressure you into anything though, each to his own.

Also, to the right person, an extra $1500 or so for a nice car with a sweet veg system is a bargain... it saves a WHOLE lot of time, part costs, and work, and "works right out of the box"

twr 09-28-2006 04:46 PM

Not diesel but look at the asking price
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1981-500-slc_W0QQitemZ170033787469QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6338QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
eBay Motors: Mercedes-Benz : SL-Class (item 170033787469 end time Oct-18-06 08:05:12 PDT)

Also another diesel with "conversion" just watch the end of the auction price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240D-run-biodiesel-vegetable-oil-diesel-or-all-3_W0QQitemZ160034644343QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
eBay Motors: Mercedes-Benz : 200-Series (item 160034644343 end time Oct-02-06 19:15:00 PDT)


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