Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-28-2006, 09:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 5
Question camshaft jump

I have an '83 300D
while driving along; I heard a lot of noise. I stopped, opened hood and saw the valve cover (over timing chain) had a split in case.
the engine ran until I shut it off (quickly).
After removing valve cover; I discovered the chain looks fine; but forward 2 cam towers have splits in them. Chain is very tight and tensioner looks to be fine.
Anybody have an idea what made cam towers break? There is 191K miles on vehicle?!!
Thanks!

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-28-2006, 09:41 PM
TheDon's Avatar
Ghost of Diesels Past
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,285
the timing chain jumped and screwed up the timing, making the cylinder hit the valves and force the cam up and break the towers... thats my guess
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-28-2006, 10:01 PM
dkveuro's Avatar
Sword of Damocles
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Here an' there.
Posts: 2,548
Fatigue and overtighened fasteners.
Just fixed a 240D that did just that.

Timing was okay but it broke nearly every rocker tower.
This engine had lost it's vacuum pump roller that caused the towers to break.

Dropped the oil pan...replaced the vac' pump and cam/towers assembly...been back in service for 3 weeks now.

Although jumped timing will do this, it usually bends the valves too.


.
__________________
[http://languageandgrammar.com/2008/01/14/youve-got-problems-not-issues/ ]

"A liberal is someone who feels they owe a great debt to their fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-28-2006, 11:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 5
I am no expert; but I do not think that the timing jumped, or bent the valves because the engine was still running when I shut it off--wouldn't the engine have quit if the timing jumped and the valves bent??
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: W. WI
Posts: 307
Do a manual compression check with all injectors removed. If you feel any resistance as in piston hitting a valve, stop! This doesn't have to be a fancy test just a finger over the hole should tell you enough to procede further.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-28-2006, 11:16 PM
ForcedInduction
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You already have the valve cover off, turn it by hand until the cam marks line up. You will be able to find out right away if it did indeed skip a link.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-30-2006, 02:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostyankee View Post
Do a manual compression check with all injectors removed. If you feel any resistance as in piston hitting a valve, stop! This doesn't have to be a fancy test just a finger over the hole should tell you enough to procede further.
Lostyankee,
I removed the injectors and rotated crank till cam marks are aligned; looks like it is about 35 degrees off from crank! Is it possible the valves are OK, or are they bent for sure? Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-30-2006, 03:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 8,150
Valves are probably fine, but you need new towers, a new chain, and probably a new tensioner.

It jumped, for sure, and the towers broke when the valve hit the pistons.

Check valve guides for clearance, it wont' be that much more to do a valve job at this point.

Peter
__________________
1972 220D ?? miles
1988 300E 200,012
1987 300D Turbo killed 9/25/07, 275,000 miles
1985 Volvo 740 GLE Turobodiesel 218,000
1972 280 SE 4.5 165, 000 - It runs!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-30-2006, 04:56 PM
TheDon's Avatar
Ghost of Diesels Past
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,285
id remove the head and do an inspection, but thats just me

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page