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300SDL exhaust
What's the deal with the exhaust? I can't find any parts except the header pipe and the rear muffler. What's so special about the center part of the exhaust system and why can't I get it anywhere?
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'99 S420, 155k '91 VW Vanagon GL, 150k '85 VW Vanagon GL, 120k '82 VW Westy, aircooled, 165k |
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Just have an exhuast shop make you one, its just pretty much straight pipe, with a slight bend.
Timevalve makes stainless systems they will probably sell the center pipe to you.
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OK, and what about that thing that looks like a catalytic converter and the center muffler? Can I just replace all that with pipe without making her sound like a muscle car?
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'99 S420, 155k '91 VW Vanagon GL, 150k '85 VW Vanagon GL, 120k '82 VW Westy, aircooled, 165k |
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Seems so, I'm pretty sure Brians SDL is running without a center muffler and it sounds fine. I'd dump the cat you really don't need that, the center muffler is your choice. My SDL has both, I'm not sure if I'd keep the center muffler or not.
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My cat was hollowed out (somehow) and I retained the center muffler/resonator.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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The trap catalyst is there to reduce soot emissions, has to be there if it's every inspected (some states do, some don't).
TimeValve exhausts are excellent, fit perfectly and are very heavy stainless and should not need to be replaced. You may have to special order the front muffler -- I would, since these are very quit cars with a good exhaust. Peter
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1972 220D ?? miles 1988 300E 200,012 1987 300D Turbo killed 9/25/07, 275,000 miles 1985 Volvo 740 GLE Turobodiesel 218,000 1972 280 SE 4.5 165, 000 - It runs! |
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'86 Federal SDLs didnt have that cat... I wouldn't really worry about it. A well running motor shouldn't have excessive emissions.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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They do once the infamous trap oxidizer plugs up and kills the turbo and is replaced with the trap catalyst in the exhaust. Trap oxidizers were used on 85 CA cars and all 86/87 diesels.
My brother has one, 87s are exactly the same, ditto for the 87 300D with a 603. The trap catalyst is there to oxidize the soot, not for any other reason. Peter
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1972 220D ?? miles 1988 300E 200,012 1987 300D Turbo killed 9/25/07, 275,000 miles 1985 Volvo 740 GLE Turobodiesel 218,000 1972 280 SE 4.5 165, 000 - It runs! |
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1987s had them regardless of Fed or CA emission, I have never seen an '86 with the cat in either position that are Fed emission.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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OK, here's the full story: the header pipe has a huge hole and the rear muffler is falling apart and I believe. Also, someone told me that the system may be clogged up somewhere (is that possible?), and this would be the reason why I have almost no power at higher RPM's. Since the front and rear parts of the exhaust are due anyway, I'm planning to replace the entire system. Well, it's 770 bucks at timevalve, but since you guys recommend their system, I will probably go with it.
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'99 S420, 155k '91 VW Vanagon GL, 150k '85 VW Vanagon GL, 120k '82 VW Westy, aircooled, 165k |
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