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Old 10-11-2006, 02:56 PM
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I am stupid - disabling the EGR.

I have spent hours and hours reading about plugging the vacuum line going to the EGR with a BB. So I have pulled the vacuum line out, looked at it, with BB in hand, but am not completely sure what to do. Do I shove the BB up the rubber thing, then the vacuum line after it, to seal it all off nice? I am guessing the line has to be plugged off somehow, or it would be a terrible loss of vacuum. But a BB won't fit in it. I could golf tee it, but I have BBs right in my hand, how does this work? Help a stupid redneck out please!

sorry, I know this has been beat to death many times. but I honestly haven't been able to answer my question. I am not familiar with vacuum systems. One day I'll just remove it and cap it off, but I am broke now and away from home with few tools. BBs I have though.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:18 PM
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Anythin that stops the vacuum flow on that line will work. Just disconnect it and shove a golf tee in to keep it from venting vacuum if you want
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:06 PM
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You can find larger or smaller ball bearings at bicycle shops. Use a ball bearing and put the line back on and be done with it. It will be inoperative and look stock.
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Should the turbo bypass valve be disabled too?
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:30 PM
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Should the turbo bypass valve be disabled too?
Yes, that's called the ARV on the '85. You can disconnect and plug that line as well.
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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I pulled those two vac lines out of the black box, melted the ends shut with a lighter, cooled them off, stuck them back in. Worked great.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:48 PM
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Yes, that's called the ARV on the '85. You can disconnect and plug that line as well.
hold on, where is this? Right now I'm going to shove a bb up that rubber part on the EGR, then shove the line back in to cap the whole thing off. And it will look perfectly stock. But I love tinkering with things, the more lines I can plug the better!
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:52 AM
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hold on, where is this? Right now I'm going to shove a bb up that rubber part on the EGR, then shove the line back in to cap the whole thing off. And it will look perfectly stock. But I love tinkering with things, the more lines I can plug the better!
I'm betting that your MBZ is a 1985 W123 chassis [NOT a Calif. car] with a 617 Turbodiesel engine and and IF I'm correct, this means your correct vacuum diagram can be found at:
http://www.peterschmid.com/vacuum/1977_1985/617_95/1984_1985.jpg

Now we can all use this diagram as a reference so we are not speculating so much about what part of the vacuum system the other is talking about.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:03 AM
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Thank you very much for the diagram. I know exactly what we're also looking for. I'll plug both the EGR and ARV afternoon and see what happens. Cost: 2 bbs - $0.0001. I love Mercedes.
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:21 PM
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Yes, I have this thing about having the correct vacuum diagram...

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Thank you very much for the diagram. I know exactly what we're also looking for. I'll plug both the EGR and ARV afternoon and see what happens...
... and for similar reasons I would like to see this FORUM start an official Glossary of Terms and/or parts... so What the "heck" is an " ARV "? This abreviation does not appear to match any of the components on your vacuum diagram.
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Air recirculating valve, also called the turbo bypass valve (its right on the turbo), #71 on the diagram. But a glossary of terms would be nice.
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:16 PM
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And I have a lot to learn about...

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Air recirculating valve, also called the turbo bypass valve (its right on the turbo), #71 on the diagram. But a glossary of terms would be nice.
... turbos on these vintage MBZs!
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:27 PM
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If you plugged this ARV, what will happen to the performance of the turbo-charger?
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:30 PM
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If you plugged this ARV, what will happen to the performance of the turbo-charger?
It should build boost quicker. The ARV is only for emissions, it has no positive performance effect.
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