Something for Techno Junkies, a Magnetic Engine - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Shorebilly · #1 10-31-2006, 06:44 AM

G'mornin' Folks,

I found something interesting, and I know that there are some here who will be interested as well ......check this out.....a Magnetic Engine.....

Cycclone Magnetic Engines is dedicated to developing a commercially viable, environmentally friendly engine based on the use of permanent magnets to supply mechanical power on demand, without the need of external fuel input

and a link to their website... www.cycclone.com

Puttin' on the ol' thinkin' cap......
SB

WD8CDH · #2 10-31-2006, 07:18 AM

Pure SCAM.

Matt L · #3 10-31-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shorebilly

supply mechanical power on demand, without the need of external fuel input

That's all I need to see. Either it degrades the magnets during use (which is an insanely expensive form of energy), or it cannot work.

winmutt · #4 10-31-2006, 09:33 AM

Isnt a "magnetic engine" a electric motor?

Old300D · #5 10-31-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by winmutt

Isnt a "magnetic engine" a electric motor?

Only if it works.

Kynetx · #6 10-31-2006, 11:22 AM

Haha. What a pantload.

Whiskeydan · #7 10-31-2006, 12:42 PM

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cycclone

Oh... the Carter family was very convincing.

Diesel Giant · #8 10-31-2006, 05:06 PM

That had to be the slowest internet site of all time. Never got anything to play, never saw the engine and they did not talk about anthing except a theory.

I dont want to know what could be, I want to know what it.

winmutt · #9 10-31-2006, 05:09 PM

We talked about it at work pretty extensively. Its concievable to create a magnetic engine that once started would essentially run forever. However getting it to do anything useful is impossible.

Old300D · #10 10-31-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by winmutt

We talked about it at work pretty extensively. Its concievable to create a magnetic engine that once started would essentially run forever. However getting it to do anything useful is impossible.

Only if you eliminate friction, and you cannot pull any load. Then it's just a gyroscope, no need for magnets.

rrgrassi · #11 10-31-2006, 05:22 PM

To do that you would need mag-lev as well. Anything with bearings and lube will still have some surface tension and friction, resulting in a slow down, and stopping.

Dubyagee · #12 10-31-2006, 05:51 PM

I made one out of an old turntable and a handful of RadioShack magnets when I was a kid. It "ran" for a few days before the Gauss of the magnets diminished from harmonic vibration. If someone actually achieved sustained power from one of these motors it would be front page news instead of being proclaimed from some substandard website. Whatever happened to that Japanese fellow that converted a BMW to run on water by breaking the water into hydrogen/O2. I fear the oil barons had him whacked.

#13 10-31-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

I fear the oil barons had him whacked.

LOL, he must have been whacked for violating both the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

#14 10-31-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Giant

That had to be the slowest internet site of all time. Never got anything to play, never saw the engine and they did not talk about anthing except a theory.

I dont want to know what could be, I want to know what it.

http://cycclone.us/see%20eng%20run.wmv

Looks like a big electric motor.

EDIT: It's a magnetic piston engine:
"The Mechanical Application
The internal combustion engine produces power through the mechanical advantage of a reciprocating crankshaft.These engines are configured as either two stroke or four stroke.

In a two stroke engine, there is a power stroke for every revolution, however, these engines have proven to be uneconomical in the modern environment. A four stroke engine has a power stroke for every two revolutions. Both engines use a scalene triangle with two fixed sides to convert the power stroke into usable rotating mechanical power. The concept behind CME is to replace the liquid fuel power stroke of two revolutions with a load line (permeance coefficient, Pc) power pulse in four to eight deliveries per revolution depending on the size and power requirement.

This will equate to four power strokes per revolution in a four cycle configuration eliminating the wasted energy of one and a half rotations of the four stroke engine. Further, the power consuming components of the reciprocating engine such as the camshaft, valve train oil pump, water pump, fan, and fuel pump in diesel engines will further advantage the CME as they will not be required.

When arrays of magnets are assembled, especially when the magnets must be placed in repelling positions, it is very important to consider safety issues. Modern magnet materials such as the Rare Earth types are extremely powerful, and when in repulsion they can behave as projectiles if adhesives were to break down. CME has identified several potential methods of mechanical retention."

SD Blue · #15 10-31-2006, 11:17 PM

Well let's see here. Anybody with a pacemaker? artificial joints? pins for bone fractures? Do you wear a mechanical watch? Do you carry a laptop to work? Carry credit cards? Sorry, not available. Those would have to be some seriously strong magnets in order to get anything out of it. Then the forementioned hazards/drawbacks would have to be considered. Personally, I don't see it happening.