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andmoon 11-02-2006 09:51 AM

What happens if straight kero is burned?
 
Will the motor melt?
I know 603s won't run when filled w/ rug.

adrenelin500 11-02-2006 09:53 AM

Nice timing
 
Thats funny I just logged on to ask the same question. Sorry I can't help, but if I find the answer i'll let you know.

Matt L 11-02-2006 10:06 AM

I believe that it will burn just fine, but it lacks lubricity and cetane enhancers that are added to diesel fuel.

Jadavis 11-02-2006 10:26 AM

Add 2% vegetable oil or biodiesel
 
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Add 2% vegetable oil or biodiesel to make up for the lack of lubricants. Use canola or soybean oil.

F3 refered to in the document below is kerosene.

-Jim

MercFan 11-02-2006 10:44 AM

How much for Kero?
 
You guys must have a good source for Kerosene - how expensive is it in your area, just curious? I live in Denver and wanted to get a couple of gallons for my space heater: first of all, no gas station carries around here - it seems you can only buy it at ACE at $17.99 for 2 gal! Local Rent-All place sells it for around $7 per gallon - whew! No thanks...

Jadavis 11-02-2006 10:48 AM

K1 is running high here. The tank was bought at peak prices and has not been used up yet so our end cost is $2.99 a gallon. I use it in a space heater. Because of the tax issues I would never use it in my car.

-Jim

pleiades 11-02-2006 10:49 AM

The station I get diesel at sells kero for around $3.00/gallon. Highway stations that cater to trucks should carry it.

pawoSD 11-02-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pleiades (Post 1320195)
The station I get diesel at sells kero for around $3.00/gallon. Highway stations that cater to trucks should carry it.

Around here its between $2.95 and $3.30, so almost 60 - 70 cents more per gallon. :eek:

Brian Carlton 11-02-2006 11:23 AM

You can run all the Kero that you wish. In fact, it's the recommended procedure for cold climates where gelling is a problem.

However, the energy output of kero is significantly less than #2 fuel oil and you'll notice the difference with as little as 30% in the tank.

I'd be fairly sure that the performance of 100% kero would be far less than satisfactory.

firemediceric 11-02-2006 11:23 AM

Kerosene has the same cetane value as #2 diesel, at least according to the fuel gurus at the info-pop site.

Jadavis is correct that it lacks lubricity and that as little as 2% vegetable oil will overcome this shortcoming. Marvel Mystery oil or many other lubricants could also be used at a lesser rate.

I get K1 (kerosene) at the local Sunoco station for $2.499/gal.

Old300D 11-02-2006 01:23 PM

Kerosene is too expensive, especially since the mileage will drop significantly. If it was price comparable to diesel #2, I would blend with that for cold weather, but until that happens, it's antigel plus #2 mixed with biodiesel for me.

jshadows 11-02-2006 01:46 PM

I picked up 5 gallon jugs of non-dye K2 at Home Depot for 10 bucks/piece last spring but haven't used much of it because it kinda stinks and was definitely causing excessive nailing in my 350. I've still got 10-15 gallons (it was so cheap I picked up several) so might just blend it in over several tanks.

GREASY_BEAST 11-02-2006 06:34 PM

if you have some kero on hand, you might try blending it 40-60 or 50-50 or 60-40 or some such ratio with vegetable oil (check out biodiesel.infopop.cc site). Apparently it is a much better solvent for veggie blending than diesel, and you will have $1.xx/gal fuel!!

SootyPast 11-02-2006 06:54 PM

Terrible performance both in hp and mpg. Cetane rating is one thing but BTU's are quite another. I have run straight kero in a 603 and an 06 pd tdi. Noisey and poor performing in both instances. If I were forced to do it again, I would run at least a quart of atf per 10 gallons kero.

F18 11-02-2006 08:24 PM

As some have said its a great anti-gelling additive. It would be a good "emergency fuel" to get yourself away from some sort of natural disaster but so would canola oil from the local Stop and Shop.
Because of the cost and low performance I don't think its a practical alternative fuel to regular diesel or Biodiesel. ;)


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