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Old 11-11-2006, 08:08 PM
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Transmission: Rebuilt or Remanufactured?

OK, not having any current problems, let me see if I can get some input on a future item....

When (not if) my transmission eventually goes, am I better to go with a rebuilt or remanufactured one? What are the tradeoffs? And where would I find a remanufactured one...is there a reliable vendor (other than the dealership)?

Thanks.

For some reason the transmission is the one part of my car that makes me feel like I'm living on borrowed time...

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Old 11-11-2006, 08:47 PM
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The terms "rebuilt" or "remanufactured" are not defined by anyone other than the supplier.

In all cases, what is done internally to the transmission is strictly based upon the supplier and the internal condition of the transmission.

It's a bit of a blind article to the consumer.

Personally, I have 100% confidence that the "rebuilt" or "remanufactured" transmission received from any of these outfits is not anything close to a "new" transmission and will not have a prayer of going 200K miles as most of the original transmissions are capable of.

My SD has a factory remanufactured transmission installed at some point by the PO. We'll see how far it goes. But the SD only has 195K on the clock. If it makes it to 300K, I'll be suitably impressed.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:03 PM
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Well my friends 81 SD has 650K miles. The engine was shot at 400K, so it was replaced with a new crate engine from the dealer and the transmission was rebuilt by AAMCO (found the receipts) about 250K miles later the car runs like a top and transmission shifts just fine.

My dads 78 300D transmission has just been rebuilt, the guys at the transmission shop said they were amazed that the thing had never been rebuilt for 400K miles.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:22 PM
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Many commercially-rebuilt transmissions (and alternators and starter motors and carburetors -- remember carburetors?) are done in huge factories by minimum wage employees driven to work as fast as possible. Every possible corner is cut to keep expenses down and profits up while selling at the lowest possible price because many people replace the bad assembly and immediately dump the car so they don't care about quality.

I replaced the transmission in my wife's Oldsmobubble with a factory "gen-u-wine Delco" remanufactured unit -- $1700 plus labor! It lasted barely 70K miles and started making bad noises. I took it to a local tranny shop, oldest and best in town, and had it rebuilt. They found all sorts of crap in the transmission during the rebuild. I complained to GM; they didn't care. Although the local place officially warranties their work for only a year, they probably will stand behind it for as long as we have the car. We're local and they're local and they have their reputation to think about.

As Brian said, the terms "rebuilt" and "remanufactured" have no real meaning and many if not most rebuilt components are of questionable value. Incidentally, I not only replace the transmission oil and filter every 25K miles, I take the car back to the tranny shop and let them do it. It costs $95 for a job I could easily do myself but leaves them with no excuse if something goes wrong.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:23 PM
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and the transmission was rebuilt by AAMCO (found the receipts) ..................and transmission shifts just fine.
Now, that's definitely a first..............
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:30 PM
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I have about 80K on my "reman" tranny (almost all highway), we'll see how it does in the long term.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:31 PM
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What--me jealous?

Ruben's family is disgustingly lucky. We should all be so fortunate.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:44 PM
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I have about 80K on my "reman" tranny (almost all highway), we'll see how it does in the long term.
Well, with three shifts every 100 miles, you're not exactly the epitome of the "normal" user.

You, too, might have been successful with Aamco.........
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:49 PM
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Well, with three shifts every 100 miles, you're not exactly the epitome of the "normal" user.
That's what I'm counting on, today it was more like 3 shifts every 300 miles (I drove across most of KS, MO, IL, IN).
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:57 PM
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The trans in these cars are extremly durable, I do all around town probably 12 shifts per mile! The SDL's trans is getting a bit soft but still goes good, 250k+ miles, 20 years, and lots of around town, I'm impressed!

I found a local trans shop that seems to know there stuff, when I get mine done I'll probably send it there way. I'm not to keen to pay a few hundred for shipping when I can get it done locally. These are simple trans, also there are a lot of these cars around here, they have all worked on them.
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:43 AM
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This is probably a prudent question for you to ask, being that you have a W124. Seems their failure rate is higher than the W123's and W126's..........
Around 200K also seems to be the magical #.

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