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Old 01-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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If everyone in China and India had a car, we would be out of oil real soon. Population will always grow as much as it can until all local resources are maxed out. 100 years ago we had 1.6 billion people because there were too many deaths due to lack of technology. Now with climate change emerging as a serious threat (which is already causing flooding, droughts, heat waves and other problems), I wouldn't be surprised to see population growth coming to a standstill and maybe even going negative in the next 100 years. I've read some reports that predict that the population will level off around 9 billion.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:52 PM
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If everyone in China and India had a car, we would be out of oil real soon. Population will always grow as much as it can until the current resources are maxed out. 100 years ago we had 1.6 billion people because there were too many deaths due to lack of technology. Now with climate change emerging as a serious threat (which is already causing flooding, droughts, heat waves and other problems), I wouldn't be surprised to see population growth coming to a standstill and maybe even going negative in the next 100 years. I've read some reports that predict that the population will level off around 9 billion.
I probably agree with most of that, so what's the solution? Are we going to try to prevent everyone in China and India from getting a car (and electrical power and clean water), that wouldn't work even if it was ethical. The best we can do is start selling them the latest/most efficient technology available to minimize the energy/environmental impact of their industrialization. It is quite likely they will "leapfrog" our technology over the next couple of decades anyway.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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Actually China probably faces even bigger energy challenges than we do, and they know that. And they may already be farther ahead in alternative energy development than we are. I know countries like Sweden, Denmark and Iceland are already far ahead of the US when it comes to renewable energy. I'm all for clean energy and global education. Education comes with lower reproduction rates and better technology, exactly what this world needs.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:08 PM
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Actually China probably faces even bigger energy challenges than we do, and they know that. And they may already be farther ahead in alternative energy development than we are. I know countries like Sweden, Denmark and Iceland are already far ahead of the US when it comes to renewable energy. I'm all for clean energy and global education. Education comes with lower reproduction rates and better technology, exactly what this world needs.
I agree fully. BTW, my ex-employer is part of a consortium that just signed a deal to build four 1000 MW nuclear power plants in China, they plan on building about 25 of these plants by 2020. I keep getting e-mails asking me if I want to spend the next few years in China. Interesting stuff.
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:40 PM
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Don't worry there is more then enough wealth to go around for those so motivated. The old 90/10 rule has been in affect since the beginning of time, it has survived communism and socialism as well.

No not everyone can live like the typical American with a house a few cars ect. But a lot of people can pick themselves up out of there dirt floor huts and into 800k sq ft apartments.

Not everyone can own a car either, but enough can, and even more can own a bike.

In general everyone will be better off, but like anything there will be losers. Unfortunately that is just the way human society is. Havenít figured out how to change that yet.
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