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JDmills 11-29-2006 06:46 PM

617 Vacume pump gasket replacement
 
How big a job is this? More specifically how is the vacume pump driven, but the timing chain? and can it be resealed with out breaking the chain to do so?

I got a big leak.. and a small window of opportunity, can I get it done in a morning?

Tubber 11-29-2006 06:54 PM

A much talked about subject.

Are you sure its only your gasket and not the internal components? I'm not sure if its common to have the gasket fail; rather the internal components tend to go (check valves etc.)

The vacuum pump is not driven by the timing chain, its driven by a cam/lobe; not sure what the name is. Unbolt the Allen key head bolts and remove. You may have to remove the power steering pump belt and fan (I got mine out without removing either, but some prefer to do so) to make it easier to remove the vacuum pump. Check the valves and rubber gaskets inside the vacuum pump. Most likely the failure will be here if you've narrowed your vacuum problems down to the pump. If not, check the lines out of it and secondary lines for leaks.

Good luck, try the link here on the site to rebuilding the 617 vacuum pump.

whunter 11-29-2006 08:04 PM

Answer:
 
Rebuilding the Vacuum Pump on the 617 Engine
http://207.210.95.34/~boostd/easley/Rebuild_vac_pump.htm

1982-240D-Vacuum System
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/105201-1982-240d-vacuum-system.html

Vacuum pump lesson learned
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/121744-vacuum-pump-lesson-learned.html#post872760

Vacuum Pump Gasket Sealer & Torque
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/138153-vacuum-pump-gasket-sealer-torque.html

Rebuilding the Vacuum Pump
http://207.210.95.34/~boostd/easley/Rebuild_vac_pump.htm


Vacuum System Diagrams and Information (More Links Inside)
http://server1.serverway.net/~boostd/Vacuum/

dmorrison 11-29-2006 08:15 PM

Here's my thoughts on the seal replacement. My post is more than your doing but it covers it and give techinque on replacing the vacuum pump seal.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/135541-replacing-300td-front-crankshaft-seal-other-front-block-oil-leaks.html?highlight=front+seals+crank+seal+dave

Dave

JDmills 11-29-2006 10:23 PM

My pump repair issue is with the amount of oil that the gasket is allowing to drip down the block... not so much with the vaccume issues of the pump itself... thanks for the information.. I will have to get in there and give it a good cleaning, before taking anything apart!

tangofox007 11-29-2006 11:18 PM

I just had the same problem with the vacuum pump gasket leaking oil. Replacing the gasket is really simple. Just disconnect the vacuum line and remove the six socket head cap screws. Nothing to it, except that a couple of the screws are a little hard to access.
After replacing the front crankshaft seal, IP gasket, oil filter stand gasket and vacuum pump gasket, my engine is now drip free.

tangofox007 11-29-2006 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubber (Post 1343668)
The vacuum pump is not driven by the timing chain, its driven by a cam/lobe

And what makes this cam go round, if not the timing chain?

JDmills 11-30-2006 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 1343972)
After replacing the front crankshaft seal, IP gasket, oil filter stand gasket and vacuum pump gasket, my engine is now drip free.


Just what I am dreaming of... but a LONG way from that.

Tubber 11-30-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 1343976)
And what makes this cam go round, if not the timing chain?

Was just saying that in order to fix any vacuum problem with the pump that it does not involve breaking the timing chain as was asked originally. Its my understanding that the cam with its lobes that make the arm/spring inside the pump actuate is driven by the timing chain. I've replaced my pump, and removing/installing does not involve messing with the timing chain.


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