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Old 01-08-2007, 12:46 AM
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Count your blessings

Could have been worse, man. People die every day in accidents. I almost did from a bad accident one day. Be glad it's just a bent arm or so.

I hope everyone out there FORCES others to watch the VW commercial about "Safe Happens". The guys are driving to work, normal as can be, then WHAMMO!!! Big crash. That's how they happen.

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Old 01-11-2007, 02:56 PM
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Well, my dad wanted to get a spring compressor anyway, so he ordered one the other day. No idea what brand/quality/size. He said it would fit. Anyway, I am going to order a guide rod and replace that, and then see how it is. A few questions, though.

1. Is there any way to replace the guide rod without compressing the spring? It seems like you almost could if that stupid bolt wasn't under the coil.

2. This is probably the worst question, but will I need an alignment after a guide rod replacement? I would think so.

Thanks for your help all. I also am lucky. I opted to hit the curb instead of careening into a busy street down at the bottom of the hill.
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:58 PM
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Answer:

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Well, my dad wanted to get a spring compressor anyway, so he ordered one the other day. No idea what brand/quality/size. He said it would fit. Anyway, I am going to order a guide rod and replace that, and then see how it is. A few questions, though.

1. Is there any way to replace the guide rod without compressing the spring? It seems like you almost could if that stupid bolt wasn't under the coil.

2. This is probably the worst question, but will I need an alignment after a guide rod replacement? I would think so.

Thanks for your help all. I also am lucky. I opted to hit the curb instead of careening into a busy street down at the bottom of the hill.
#1. It is not safe to attempt without the compressor.
#2. Yes, you must align the front end after this repair.

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Old 01-24-2007, 02:20 PM
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Well, today's the day. Got the compressor, guide rod + bushings (hope the mount is ok, it looked fine.) Will write back after I am done, hafta get an alignment too. Is there any reason to take it to a special shop for the alignment? A local shop has a coupon for 30 buck alignments right now.
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:56 PM
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The w123 alignement requires a "spreader bar" to set proper toe, IIRC. If the $30 shop can do the aligment properly, then they should be ok. You need to ask them if they have the spreader bar.
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The choice of who to do the alignment is not totally yours. Most of the modern computors for alignment will not allow their program for 123s to activate if the owner of the machine does not have a spreader bar installed. I found a guy with an older fmc machine. It does not even have the provision available for it and the 123 program comes up. It is not as good as being done with the proper equipment. Yet still has to be far better than having nothing done. More so if your alignment is way out. Just my two cents worth..
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:25 AM
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I see nothing in the posts about replacing the spindle. I hate to put a break in the action but that spindle is likely bent too. If it was mine that spindle would be replaced with a known good one while it was apart.
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I hit a curb like that with a domestic car way back when. Upper and lower arms, spindle, tierod all had to be replaced. Not sure I would trust anything on that side again. Try to find a good boneyard. RT
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:38 PM
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Repaired! (hopefully)

Well, I got the new guide rod replaced today, along with a new bushing and everything back together. I didn't replace the mount. I did compress the spring, and while I would not necessarily recommend it to others, I used a cheap Harbor Freight compressor and an extra dose of precaution. the PO had replaced the springs about 5k ago, so they were reluctant. Anyway, it looks ok now, havent driven it yet cause the battery is dead and it is cold outside. I am done for the night.

The spindle is ok I think, but my deduction on that is I didnt hit the curb very hard + wheel still spins freely + no bad noises. I will get an alignment soon. Going to see how it is before I replace any more parts.

I will post a picture of the old guide rod soon, its bent bad. May keep it as a trophy.

Thanks to everyone and this board for the indispensable help!
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Sounds like we are working on similar issues, though mine is a W124: HELP! W124 Hit Curb at 40+MPH! [56K Warning] I don't get into diesel discussion often...
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:02 AM
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Its (almost) done

Well, all is replaced and I drove the car around today. It finally thawed enough I could get it out of my alley. It seems to be ok, but the alignment is off, the steering wheel is about 30 degrees off center. But an alignment should finish this job! thanks for all the help.

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