Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-05-2006, 05:53 PM
byrdandcompany's Avatar
Do I smell French Fries?
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Memphis Tennessee
Posts: 188
#4 GP Any ideas on getting it out?

Yep, time to change the number 4 GP on my 300sd. Any ideas on getting it out without removing just about everything in the engine?

__________________
1979 240d 216k (W123) Daily Driver
Volvo 245DL 210k

1979 300D FOR SALE
2002 Tahoe 91k FOR SALE

1980 300sd 177k (W116) Sold
1980 300sd Parts (W116) Junked
1979 240D 121k (W123) Sold
1982 300TDT 298K (W123) (Sold)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-05-2006, 07:54 PM
Hit Man X's Avatar
I LOVE BRUNETTES
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: FUNKYTOWN
Posts: 9,087
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by byrdandcompany View Post
Yep, time to change the number 4 GP on my 300sd. Any ideas on getting it out without removing just about everything in the engine?


Removing everything?

You can just slip your hands in there if you try or just remove the IP lines, that's simple to do.
__________________
I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.
[/IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-05-2006, 08:00 PM
DIY or Die
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 298
There are a lot of places on our cars where removing/replacing parts almost requires a body built like a spider monkey. Unfortunately, I have forearms like Popeye. Toot-toot. I've just gotten used to visualizing where my hand needs to be based on the diagram/pic, then persistently ramming/wiggling/jamming/cursing/flexing/wriggling until I'm there. I worry about *disengaging* my arm after the fact.

One thing that helps me out in the engine bay is keeping a step-stool handy, so I can get the most advantageous angle of approach for getting into tight places.

Good luck!
__________________
1973 280 - Current Project Car
1979 240d - 100% Stock
1982 380sl - 100% Stock
1985 190e 2.3 - Heavily Modified
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-05-2006, 08:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 172
I got it with just a box wrench. It's pretty tight and you can only turn a little at a time (a combination ratchet wrench would work great) but it comes out if you're persistent. The only one I couldn't get was #5, I should have the right wrench now though to get the nut off.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-05-2006, 08:09 PM
DrewGerhan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Grove City, OH
Posts: 729
I just took all 5 of mine out lastnight and just used a 13mm wrench. I t took a good bit of time but I got them out.
__________________
1981 300 SD 213k miles "Stock for now"
1999 Super Duty 7.3L 113k miles
1981 300 SD 180k miles "Heavily modified" SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-05-2006, 08:11 PM
Hit Man X's Avatar
I LOVE BRUNETTES
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: FUNKYTOWN
Posts: 9,087
Thumbs up

Took me maybe five minutes to pull the IP lines. Why make life harder?
__________________
I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.
[/IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-05-2006, 08:40 PM
TheDon's Avatar
Ghost of Diesels Past
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
Took me maybe five minutes to pull the IP lines. Why make life harder?
with the stupid little brakcets still on them
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Hit Man X's Avatar
I LOVE BRUNETTES
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: FUNKYTOWN
Posts: 9,087
Thumbs up

Those brackets make it a bit harder to reinstall only to me.
__________________
I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.
[/IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 604
i have big hands and big forearms. it was tough for me to get them out but i used a typical open ended/ box ended wrench took some time and forearms being all chewed up but it works.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:20 PM
Hit Man X's Avatar
I LOVE BRUNETTES
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: FUNKYTOWN
Posts: 9,087
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by 79300sdtd View Post
i have big hands and big forearms. it was tough for me to get them out but i used a typical open ended/ box ended wrench took some time and forearms being all chewed up but it works.


Exact reason I pull the IP lines.
__________________
I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.
[/IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:43 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,835
youse guys whove read my opinion on this, I opologize... WHY did MB make those line brackets so sharp????? how much more would rounded corners have cost? I mean this car cost what 60K adjusted for inflation? 120K? 0.10$ brackets a little softer... oh wait, MB techs in the dealership would of course remove them for the additional .25 or .5 hours they can charge on the tune up. who knows why really. the thing is, they are pretty easy to remove and reinstall. when putting them back on, start the threads on each end on all the lines before tightening them up, tighten the IP end first, then bleed the injector lines free of air. pretty simple really.
John
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hit Man X View Post
Exact reason I pull the IP lines.
I did this when i first got the car and was not too sure about pulling the IP lines. i will prolly pull them the next time.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-05-2006, 09:55 PM
byrdandcompany's Avatar
Do I smell French Fries?
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Memphis Tennessee
Posts: 188
I figured I was going to

have to pull the IP lines but I wasn't for sure if anyone can do it without pulling them. The PO put the gp wires on weird and I can't get a socket on the 8mm nut to get the gp wire off. I can get to the gp off if I can get smaller nut off.
__________________
1979 240d 216k (W123) Daily Driver
Volvo 245DL 210k

1979 300D FOR SALE
2002 Tahoe 91k FOR SALE

1980 300sd 177k (W116) Sold
1980 300sd Parts (W116) Junked
1979 240D 121k (W123) Sold
1982 300TDT 298K (W123) (Sold)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-05-2006, 10:01 PM
byrdandcompany's Avatar
Do I smell French Fries?
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Memphis Tennessee
Posts: 188
also

i have huge hands so getting them in between the ip lines is pretty difficult. I can't get all of them changed except the 4th one. I thought about getting my daughter to try it out but she is only 6.
__________________
1979 240d 216k (W123) Daily Driver
Volvo 245DL 210k

1979 300D FOR SALE
2002 Tahoe 91k FOR SALE

1980 300sd 177k (W116) Sold
1980 300sd Parts (W116) Junked
1979 240D 121k (W123) Sold
1982 300TDT 298K (W123) (Sold)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-05-2006, 10:02 PM
byrdandcompany's Avatar
Do I smell French Fries?
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Memphis Tennessee
Posts: 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cephallus View Post

One thing that helps me out in the engine bay is keeping a step-stool handy, so I can get the most advantageous angle of approach for getting into tight places.

Good luck!
That is a great idea. I haven't thought about the stool.

__________________
1979 240d 216k (W123) Daily Driver
Volvo 245DL 210k

1979 300D FOR SALE
2002 Tahoe 91k FOR SALE

1980 300sd 177k (W116) Sold
1980 300sd Parts (W116) Junked
1979 240D 121k (W123) Sold
1982 300TDT 298K (W123) (Sold)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page