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123euroowner 12-25-2006 12:38 PM

EGR removal, good or bad?
 
I have an 82 300D with a turbo and Im interested in removing the EGR. What are the positives and negatives in doing so. Overall, is it worth it?

Thanks everyone for helping me out--Merry Christmas

Matt

Brian Carlton 12-25-2006 12:46 PM

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/161736-why-disable-egr.html?highlight=EGR

justinperkins 12-25-2006 12:50 PM

Negatives could be failure to pass inspection (unlikely) and also slightly increased emissions, but that one is up for debate on an engine with 20 years of soot buildup inside the intake due to the EGR.

ForcedInduction 12-25-2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinperkins (Post 1368029)
and also slightly increased emissions

Only NOx should slightly go up. Particulate (soot/smoke) and CO2 should go down.

Unless you are a MB purist (which you are not if you are asking this), a tree hugger, or absolutely must pass a visual inspection every year, the benefits of removing the EGR far outweigh the negatives.

123euroowner 12-25-2006 09:09 PM

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Yea....im definately considering this....I come from New York, were we are lucky enough to get 'safety only' inspections...So i really wont have a problem here


also, Im no where near a tree hugger....as a matter of fact, I love the smell of diesel and also dump the oil into a hole in the yard...j/k

aceofspd 12-25-2006 09:38 PM

Egr
 
Does a euro have an EGR?

ForcedInduction 12-25-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aceofspd (Post 1368248)
Does a euro have an EGR?

Depends on how it was brought into the USA. Some owners had to install one, some didn't.

vstech 12-25-2006 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123euroowner (Post 1368223)
also, Im no where near a tree hugger....as a matter of fact, I love the smell of diesel and also dump the oil into a hole in the yard...j/k

oooh, messy, a hole in the yard... my dad does that and I cringe... I always take what I don't burn in my garage woodstove and give it to advance auto recycle tank. simple, and I am inthere most weeks anyway. I garden a lot, so I like to limit the chemicals in my land.
John

rwthomas1 12-25-2006 10:33 PM

Take the EGR off and toss it out. The small increase in pollution is negligible in the grand scheme of things.

Pouring used motor oil into a hole in the ground however is inexcusable and incredibly stupid. Recycling centers are plentiful and the pollution is far greater than a non-functioning EGR.

RT

justinperkins 12-26-2006 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1368172)
Only NOx should slightly go up. Particulate (soot/smoke) and CO2 should go down.

Unless you are a MB purist (which you are not if you are asking this), a tree hugger, or absolutely must pass a visual inspection every year, the benefits of removing the EGR far outweigh the negatives.

I don't know anyone in there right mind who would actually leave their EGR on in the name of emissions, I was just simply trying to point out the negative, even though it's an incredibly trivial negative.

greasybenz 12-26-2006 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1368172)
Only NOx should slightly go up. Particulate (soot/smoke) and CO2 should go down.

But i would think that the new ULSD we have it should keep the car within emission standards so i dont think any problems should come up if he indeed has to do a emission test.

JWJ 12-26-2006 05:19 AM

amputation
 
So is blocking the vacuum line to the EGR with a BB just as good as totally removing the EGR?

Or are there more benefits for a total EGR amputation?

ForcedInduction 12-26-2006 05:24 AM

Most of the time, completely removing the EGR is just for cosmetics. However, they can have soot on the valve seat that keeps them slightly open all the time or a weak spring that can allow it to crack open under high boost.

Installing the blockoff plate under the EGR face will completely eliminate any chance of exhaust gasses getting into the intake but keep the engine looking "stock".

connerm 12-26-2006 06:52 AM

umm...j/k
 
j/k = just kidding.

justinperkins 12-26-2006 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by connerm (Post 1368391)
j/k = just kidding.

this wasn't a joke...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 1368281)
oooh, messy, a hole in the yard... my dad does that and I cringe



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