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Old 12-26-2006, 11:46 PM
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Ahh, but they are a blessing and a curse at the same time that way, lest you be so lucky as to crossthread or strip a nut......ut-ohhhh.......
I would have saved 1/2 hour tonight if I had those nuts to do #5. Getting a loose M6 nut started on #5 is an exercise in frustration.

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Old 12-26-2006, 11:52 PM
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Is it harder to do #5 on a W126 due to that weird 2nd firewall thing? On a W123 #5 is the easiest.....
[I've never had a W126]
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:08 AM
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Is it harder to do #5 on a W126 due to that weird 2nd firewall thing? On a W123 #5 is the easiest.....
[I've never had a W126]
It's right behind the oil filter housing and the rod from the firewall to the throttle mechanism passes right over the top of the space where your hand needs to go.........should have just removed the rod from the beginning.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:12 AM
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Ha, you know, I think I was thinking about #4 on a 240D.
I'll have to look at that #5 tomorrow on the wagon. I'm officially curious now......
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:10 AM
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Ha, you know, I think I was thinking about #4 on a 240D.
I'll have to look at that #5 tomorrow on the wagon. I'm officially curious now......
Yep, now I understand why #5 is the easiest on a 240D.........hell, that's a two minute affair with a beer in your right hand.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:48 PM
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I know about tht big hand problem!

Man and it can really get too you, Big hands and poor eyes, (plus 75 years of tender loving care from my Dearest Reta). But it do make a problem working in tight spaces and of course a distance that forces me either to not look at all, or use that real low down smear in my glasses called the "trifocal" lens. I am really excited about doing that Glo Plug job. Hope it doesn't get any colder. This is about my low temperature mark for working in the garage. Fellow member Mike is sending me the official glo-plug reamer. I really appreaciate a fine fellow like that. More about big hands. If hands were sized, I guess mine would be about size 15. Probably grew them in High School, when we really had to work in the summer, (all year really) miling cows, yes by hand, about 10 morning and evening and also working the hardwood end of a pitch fork. I never did see a "Combine" until about 3 or 4 years after HS, but I sure saw a lot of pitchforks.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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More about big hands. If hands were sized, I guess mine would be about size 15.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:03 PM
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Yep, now I understand why #5 is the easiest on a 240D.........hell, that's a two minute affair with a beer in your right hand.
#5 on a 240d? Thats gotta be scarcer than hens teeth!
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Glow plugs

Any advise on a 86 six cyclinder?
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:06 PM
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Any advise on a 86 six cyclinder?
If you need to do one plug, then you probably can struggle with a bunch of extensions below the manifold.

If you need to do more than one, the manifold should probably be removed.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:57 AM
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Small hands.....

I have smaller hands....but.....if I didn't......

On occasion I use Duct Tape or Electric Tape, a little piece inserted into a socket or gearwrench.....then push the nut into the socket/wrench....makes a snug fit....nut won't fall out....

For this particular task, the nut snuggly in the gearwrench, where it will rotate in the proper direction....righty tighty.....with the piece of tape....a small piece of wood can be used to press the gearwrench and nut against the thread.....and supply enough resistance to allow the wrench to be ratcheted.....should work.....

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Old 12-28-2006, 07:42 PM
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50 Degrees, Glo plug Indicator lite is on

Well I thought, what a wonderful day to clean the garage. Fifty degrees in Indianapolis at the end of December. Hey I thought, if this is global warming, I am all in favor of it. Just a little more of it and we'll be planting orange trees in the suburbs. Well anyway, I thought, surely it will start today. I glo'ed it twice, tho the indicator light stays on only for about 10 seconds. No way. Not even a pum-pum-pumm. Then I thought, I wonder if I spray WD40 in while cranking, will that get it going, now without using the glo plugs. No, that made no difference either. So then I rigged up a small bench type propane bottle with a long hose to stick down into the intake tube. That did speed up the cranking RPM, but it was not enough to fire it up. I think I will try again in the AM, using a big can of propane. I just don't think the flow from the valve in the small bottle can flow enough fuel to fire it up. Has anyone tried using WD40 or propane along with rather ineffective glo plugs? I am also going to warm her up a bit more in the AM with the block heater. The garage actually seems colder today then outside.
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:50 PM
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It was about 50F. here as well today.

I had not fired off the SD after removing the hard lines and the #5 glow plug change.

So, I figure I'll crank it with no glow for about 12 seconds to get fuel into the hard lines.........then, I'll cycle the key and glow it for 10 seconds and start it.

I pass the glow position and immediately crank it. Precisely 12 seconds later.........it starts. No glow utilized.

What's really interesting is the fact that, before the glow plug replacement, #5 wouldn't fire off for 15-20 seconds with the engine at idle speed (way above crank speed). Now, the engine fires at 12 seconds without plugs.

Maybe the lack of fuel for 12 seconds allows the cylinder temperatures to climb much higher than they otherwise would when cold liquid is sprayed into them. If true, a device to apply vacuum to the fuel shutoff for a short period of time would be of significant benefit to start a cold diesel. Crank it for 10 seconds without fuel to bring the cylinder temps. up.........then add fuel.

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