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Old 01-03-2007, 05:23 PM
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What about the blowby?

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Old 01-03-2007, 05:53 PM
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Blow by test: '83 300SD 435k miles

I did this test today and found the motor would run about 10 seconds with the hose capped.

Any other measurements out there to compare to?
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Old 01-03-2007, 05:59 PM
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Blow by test:

Cap the valve cover breather hose while the engine is running. If the motor builds enough pressure to stop running in under 5 seconds, the theory is that the valve guides and/or rings are worn past their useful life.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:29 PM
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good point. In my excitment of finding the loud noise, I forgot all about the blow-by. I will do this test real quick and post the results.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:34 PM
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You know there's some danger of blowing out seals with that test. It's also somewhat unreliable because the quality of the test depends on having solid deals throughout the crankcase.
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Diesel2theMoon, I did the test as per your instruction. I capped the breather hole on the valve cover and started counting. It took about 25 seconds for the engine to die. When I let my thumb off the hole a HECK of a whole lot of pressure was released.

So how does that score? Please tell me what this means please?
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Diesel2theMoon, I did the test as per your instruction. I capped the breather hole on the valve cover and started counting. It took about 25 seconds for the engine to die. When I let my thumb off the hole a HECK of a whole lot of pressure was released.

So how does that score? Please tell me what this means please?
Either you don't have a lot of blowby or you have a leaky seal.
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Hopfully I'm all good then... I did not realize that the blow-by test could possibly damage a seal but, already done. It feels good to know it's in normal range though. I have driven this car for a little over three years now and I have never had any trouble from the engine. It's always been so rock solid. The car itself however is falling apart around the engine

I'll be installing a new brake booster next. Mine is slowly dying. I now feel that it is a safty hazard and must be replaced right away.

Front suspension will be my next big project. I will be replacing the steering gear box(already purchesed $325) as well as a number of bushings I'm sure. Then get it aligned.

After that it should be mostly cosmetics.

Thanks everyone for your insite and help!
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I thought that was why you unscrewed the oil fill cap and looked at its dancing for an indication, as that prevents the dangerous pressure build-up.
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I thought that was why you unscrewed the oil fill cap and looked at its dancing for an indication, as that prevents the dangerous pressure build-up.
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..........you'll be there with your thumb on the hose for three days waiting for it to shut down........
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:10 PM
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..........you'll be there with your thumb on the hose for three days waiting for it to shut down........
No, I mean that was the point. The pressure buildup causes both the shutdown and the damage. By doing the "tea kettle" method using the oil fill cap, there is no damage to the engine (no shutdown either), but you still get a feel for the ammount of blow-by based on how much the fill cap dances.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:12 PM
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..........you'll be there with your thumb on the hose for three days waiting for it to shut down........
The cars can idle for 3 days?
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No, I mean that was the point. The pressure buildup causes both the shutdown and the damage. By doing the "tea kettle" method using the oil fill cap, there is no damage to the engine (no shutdown either), but you still get a feel for the ammount of blow-by based on how much the fill cap dances.
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Yes, I agree.

Checking blowby using the oil fill cap is preferable to plugging the crankcase and timing how long it takes to build enough pressure to shut the engine down. The latter procedure proves nothing and has a certain element of risk.
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The cars can idle for 3 days?
........of course.........provided one of your girlfriends goes for fuel periodically........
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:18 PM
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I'll be installing a new brake booster next. Mine is slowly dying. I now feel that it is a safty hazard and must be replaced right away.

Front suspension will be my next big project. I will be replacing the steering gear box(already purchesed $325) as well as a number of bushings I'm sure. Then get it aligned.
What makes you think the brake booster needs to be replaced? I bought a front end rebuild kit that has everything for $300 or so with shipping.

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