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Old 01-05-2007, 11:32 AM
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Turbo tranny -> non turbo tranny?

How much difference is there? I have a line on an turbo engine and transmission. I dont need the transmission if I cant swap it into my wifes 80 300TD (NA).

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Old 01-09-2007, 11:14 AM
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Im bumping this because of the same question,A 79 300D . HAVE ACCESS TO A 82 300 TURBO ,WILL THE TRANNIE BE THE SAME?
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:21 AM
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no.

the turbo tranny is beefier. i am in the same situation with my 300cd. i have a bad tranny in it and a good one lying in the gar. but it is from the na car. it will match up and work but wont hold up as long. i would do it but if i go to sell the car i would have to tell folks it didnt have the right tranny.

maybe with a car this old folks wouldnt care, but i am reluctant to put in the weaker tranny.

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Old 01-09-2007, 01:11 PM
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But putting a turbo tranny into a non-turbo car would work, and maybe last longer, correct?
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:56 PM
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w123 Diesel Transmission Models

240d 1974 – 1976 722.108
240d 1977 – 1983 722.117

300d 1975 – 1976 722.109

300d 1977 – 1981 722.118
300cd 1977 – 1981 722.118
300td 1977 – 1981 722.118

300d 1975 – 1976 722.109

300d 1982 – 1985 722.315
300cd 1982 – 1985 722.315
300td 1982 – 1985 722.315
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:45 PM
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240d 1974 – 1976 722.108
240d 1977 – 1983 722.117

300d 1975 – 1976 722.109

300d 1977 – 1981 722.118
300cd 1977 – 1981 722.118
300td 1977 – 1981 722.118

300d 1975 – 1976 722.109

300d 1982 – 1985 722.315
300cd 1982 – 1985 722.315
300td 1982 – 1985 722.315
So there's no such thing as a turbo-specific tranny? Sounded weird anyway.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:48 PM
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So there's no such thing as a turbo-specific tranny? Sounded weird anyway.
I know that the transmissions on my 1981 300D and my 1985 300D are different int at leat the follwing:
1. Casting
2. Pan
3. Filter
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:04 PM
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So there's no such thing as a turbo-specific tranny? Sounded weird anyway.
You misread that. prior to 82 was NA.
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:20 PM
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You misread that. prior to 82 was NA.
Ahh, thanks for pointing that out. I was thinking 81 was the first year for Turbo.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:40 PM
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The turbo trannies will not only be beefier, but also likely have different shift points and certainly a different stall speed/torque converter for the different power curve of the turbo engine.

If a turbo trans will bolt up I don't see the harm in using it on an na, might affect acceleration but playing with the bowden cable will likely help some.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:47 PM
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Ahh, thanks for pointing that out. I was thinking 81 was the first year for Turbo.
actually you could get a turbo in the coupe and the wagon.

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The turbo trannies will not only be beefier, but also likely have different shift points and certainly a different stall speed/torque converter for the different power curve of the turbo engine.

If a turbo trans will bolt up I don't see the harm in using it on an na, might affect acceleration but playing with the bowden cable will likely help some.

local indy says the 4 bolt pan , no turbo tranny;s are tougher. dont know why. i have a turbo with tranny that leaks like cray and a good one from a NA. i was thinking about a swap if i cant fix other with ease. i am mainly concerned with how it will drive. anyone ever had an old na tranny in a turbo?
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:38 PM
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really? if the na is tougher i would be surprised. but if it is i will put mine in my 300cd.

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