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Old 01-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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Exclamation Need Help....NO Oil Pressure!!

Good evening gentleman.
As i was driving up a fairly steep hill this evening I noticed that my oil gauge was abnormally low just above 1 bar.Just at that moment I fully pressed on the accelerator and the gauge went down to "0".Needless to say I immediately turned off the engine and pulled over to the side of the road.I paused for a moment to try and figure out what could be wrong here.Got out of the car opened the hood and checked the engine oil,all was good took the flashlight out and looked under the car to see if I was loosing any oil and all was good there too.
So I restarted the engine and listened very carefully if there was any engine knock and any other abnormal noise....but nothing.
So I continued for home hopping I wouldn't get stranded somewhere,I noticed that under hard acceleration the oil gauge would go up to maybe 2 bars but as soon as i would settle to a normal speed the gauge would go down to "0" again.Well I made it home witch is about 20 miles from that hill,I let the engine cool down and re checked the oil again and the level is right on the mark!!
What the HELL is going on?
Could it be the oil pressure switch or sending unit gone wacko?
Please help me anyone...
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:02 AM
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The guage is mechanical. The hose could be kinked. The guage could be messed up. Your oil pump may be failing. Check to see if your pan has a big dent in it.
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:07 AM
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There is no dent in the oil pan at all!
Where is the oil gauge hose connected at the engine?
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:17 AM
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There is no dent in the oil pan at all!
Where is the oil gauge hose connected at the engine?
It is connected to the oil filter housing. Either your line could be kinked or clogged, guage bad, or your oil pump chain broke, or pump screen is clogged. Might have to pull your lower pan off just for piece of mind.
Get some more ideas from others first, as I'm not the sharpest pin in the cushion on internal engine issues......
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:19 AM
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There is no dent in the oil pan at all!
Where is the oil gauge hose connected at the engine?
Can I assume that I still do have pressure since there is no abnormal noise comming from the engine.After all the car did make it back and it was about 20 miles or so.
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:23 AM
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It is connected to the oil filter housing. Either your line could be kinked or clogged, guage bad, or your oil pump chain broke, or pump screen is clogged. Might have to pull your lower pan off just for piece of mind.
Get some more ideas from others first, as I'm not the sharpest pin in the cushion on internal engine issues......
Jimmy would there be some sort of noise if the chain was broken?
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WHat type of car do you have, one of your other posts suggested that you have a SD,

If you have a SD then you do have an electrical oil pressure sender and they can go bad.
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:39 AM
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WHat type of car do you have, one of your other posts suggested that you have a SD,

If you have a SD then you do have an electrical oil pressure sender and they can go bad.
Excellent point. I had W123 tunnel vision......

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Jimmy would there be some sort of noise if the chain was broken?
Not if chain fragments were nice and just landed down in the pan. No noise cause there is nothing driving oil pump sprocket.
This is putting the cart well out in front of the horse, especially if this is in reference to an SD with elect. oil pressure signal....
Out of my league on that one.

No wonder we keep harping on updated signatures, or signatures at all......
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:53 AM
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Yes its a SD 1983.
I just got back from outside to restart the engine.All is good I mean no noise or engine knock,so this could be an electrical issue then ?
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:28 AM
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I can't swear to it, but I seem to remember that SDs have the electrical sender on the back of the oil filter housing.
I'm not sure where I put my shop manual discs since I moved, though, so I can't say further.

Maybe check for a loose or corroded connector at that point, or a frayed wire into the connector?
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FWIW the electrical sender crapped out on my RX. when it first happend i freaked out about the pressure. but 60,000 miles later the same engine is still running and still showing no oil pressure. so IF it is just the sending unit i would not worry too much. i would say as long as there are no odd noises you are fine

it also showed the same symptoms as yours. oil pressure would look fine then drop away then come back to like half then go away. it was odd and scary. i had just replaced the engine when all this started happening.
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Yes its a SD 1983.
I just got back from outside to restart the engine.All is good I mean no noise or engine knock,so this could be an electrical issue then ?
Yes, with no noise and what you've mentioned, I would definitely suspect an electrical issue. On the SD, the oil pressure sender is on the back of the oil filter housing. Also, check your eng-chassis grounding strap. Fluctuating guages is one of the symptoms I noticed before having starting problems............found a loose grounding strap.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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How many miles on this engine? You could have a failing oil pump, don't run it until you figure out whats going on. If you really do have less then 1.5 bar under load you are doing damage, the pistons are not getting cooled.

There is a VDO sensor under the oil filter, I don't know the thread size off the top of my head. You need to hook a mechanical guage up and see what you have. Or you could just swap out the sensor and see what it does.


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Old 01-22-2007, 12:06 PM
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One quick check is to install a mechanical guage in place of the sender temporarily to see what it reads. I would not be driving it until you've determined the cause of the problem.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:20 PM
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Can I assume that I still do have pressure since there is no abnormal noise comming from the engine.After all the car did make it back and it was about 20 miles or so.
Take the oil filler cap off and look inside the valve cover while the engine is running. You should be able to determine whether you have oil pressure or not. And if that is not convincing, loosen the oil filter lid!!!

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