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Old 01-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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ANOTHER interesting ques for all..

does anybody else have problems with their doorlocks and shutoff when it is cold?As some of you know I recently had to move to a colder climate.Now as it gets colder,I find that my doorlocks do not all work all the time.as well the shutoff(key) does not always work.correct me if I am wrong,but if vacuum was leaking would it also affect shifting?
When car wont stop,I can do one of two things.both seem to work....
1-wait patiently for about 10-15 secs and car will stop.
or
2-push door locks down and wait about 5-10 secs and car will stop.
Are the door lock mechanisms "lubed" at all?or is it a dry system?I have not dismantled one yet(kinda cold out there) so I have no personal exp with that system yet.
this is not an "all the time" prob.it also is not always effected by the cold.I.E.-yesterday AM no shut-off and not all door locks unlocked or locked.whereas this AM all worked as it should.thoughts....

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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Cold temperatures are causing a vacuum leak(s) somewhere. Not atypical in my experience. The rubber joints are harder in cold weather and less likely to seal. Such leaks are hard to find since the leak is intermittent, just like my desire to find them when its cold.
Effect on shifting depends on the year of the car. What year/model are you talking about. For instance, SD's have a separate vacuum system for the door locks whereas 123's dont.

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Old 01-22-2007, 01:13 PM
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Maybe a leaky footwell actuator pod? You'd probably have heat to floor when it's cold out.

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To test Sixto's hypothesis, push the far right button on the climate control, turning it off, and see if the locks and shut off improve.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:19 PM
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Maybe a leaky footwell actuator pod? You'd probably have heat to floor when it's cold out.

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actually no heat to floor at all,but all of the pods tested solid.I think the floor heat issue is one of the switches behind the ccu.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:34 PM
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That's evidence of a leak somewhere. Now try kerry edwards' suggestion.

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Old 01-22-2007, 05:05 PM
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When you're checking the little rubber stubs on the ends of the vacuum lines, just bend it 90° and look for cracks (buy tubing before hand). Also, if the stub comes off easy, replace it (even if it's not cracking).

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Old 01-22-2007, 05:33 PM
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That's evidence of a leak somewhere. Now try kerry edwards' suggestion.

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did not make a difference.still shuts right off sometimes and not so "right off" other times.All four locks went up and down perfectly,but car did not turn right off.yesterday,all four did not go up and down and car shut right down.
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When you're checking the little rubber stubs on the ends of the vacuum lines, just bend it 90° and look for cracks (buy tubing before hand). Also, if the stub comes off easy, replace it (even if it's not cracking).

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I checked those before while dealing with testing the pods they were not unhealthy at all..which BTW hold vacuum just fine.when I pull the yellow check-valve there is a very satifactory hiss.I did not time until it stopped,but suffice to say that it hissed for several moments before stopping.When last I tested the vacuum pump it was giving in the mid 20s if I recall correctly.Is it possible that the vacuum pump is reacting somehow to the temp variances?At first I thought it was just not warm,but after about anhours drive it still does the same thing intermittently.thoughts....
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yeah, I have similar problems with the locks and shut-off diaphram. I've learned to live with it. not that big of a deal for me to go under hood and press the STOP lever. My Vaccum system is a mess for the transmission, but I'm slowly getting it ironed out, so I can't comment on whether or not it's effecting my shifting.
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shutoff problems

I had intermittent shutoff problems with my '79 240D, cured it with a new shutoff diaphragm. my weasel curiosity got the best of me and I took a dremel grinder, and cut the housing on the old shutoff assembly, and there were barely perceptible pinholes in the diaphragm. For the price of a replacement shutoff, it was worth it not to have to go under the hood to stop the engine...very easy to replace.(another retired marine engineer)
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:19 PM
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Could be the "Flux-Capacitor"...
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There is a possible alternative to opening the hood and pushing the stop lever. Run a separate vacuum line directly from the shut off either into the passenger compartment or out of the hood at the cowl. Suck on it to shut it down. When I was having undiagnosed vacuum problems last week, I did just that and simply had to give two quick sucks on the line sticking out of the hood and it shut right down. My wife however, was not willing to accept such innovative developments.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:04 PM
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There is a possible alternative to opening the hood and pushing the stop lever. Run a separate vacuum line directly from the shut off either into the passenger compartment or out of the hood at the cowl. Suck on it to shut it down. When I was having undiagnosed vacuum problems last week, I did just that and simply had to give two quick sucks on the line sticking out of the hood and it shut right down. My wife however, was not willing to accept such innovative developments.
I do not actually have to get out and use the stop lever.I just turn the key off and wait about 10-15 sec and it sputters off.Not all the time as I said before.Sometimes the locks do not all go up or down.the two do not always coincide.

all worked as it should today so far.
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Could be the "Flux-Capacitor"...
more likely the doo-hickey....

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